Naruto Manga 432 is out! + Pics + Preta Pain, Man or Vegetable? + Further discussion and breakdown of 431
Naruto Manga 432 <Spoiler><Pics><Raw><Translation><Naruto Time Skip?!>
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The new issue is out! Click on the translation link above to read it! Click HERE to read this weeks break down post for Naruto Manga 432!
-Breakdown of Naruto Manga 431 is below-
Preta Pain has taken the offensive tactic of trying to punch Naruto's fist with his face... we'll see how that strategy works out for him.
Hey everyone,
Did anyone else notice the parallels between this weeks issue of Naruto and the movie Rocky? I know that many Naruto battles have resembled the Rocky-esque formula of getting no respect, followed by getting his ass handed to him before making a miraculous come back but this one is special. He didn’t start off by getting his ass kicked, he just went directly into getting some ass. So before we get into it today, get that Rocky theme bumpin in your brain… close your eye’s and imagine… wait… if you close your eye’s you can’t read so forget I said that.
Just keep that song in your head, let it get you pumped… Dun Dun diddy dun diddy dun diddy dun, dun dun diddy dun diddy dun diddy dun, dun dun dun dun dun dun dunnnn dunnnnnn… That song should’ve been running wild in your head while you read this! And if it wasn’t, read it again that way ^_^ Lets do this!!!!
Everyone was shocked to see Roger, the giant frog arrive on the scene...
Just like everyone else I was sick and tired of waiting for the new issue of manga to come out. It seemed like months waiting to see what was in store for our favorite fox-frog hybrid. This issue did not dissapoint. Naruto relieved Tsunade of duty after she did an amazing job protecting Konoha with her slugs, she is at the end of her rope and has given her all. It’s Naruto’sturn and he’s pissed! Some people in the comments section were pissed that Naruto had the balls to take over and send Tsunade away but I have to disagree. She did an amazing job, she metaphorically jumped on the grenade to save the platoon if you know what I mean. So I don’t think Naruto did her any disservice by stepping in and taking over where Tsunade and the rest of Konoha left off.
This scene has also dismantled my Kushina or Rin being animal realm theory. Or at the very least killed the Kushina part and seriously damaged the Rin theory. If there was a time to have some special connection revealed it was right then in that panel. It had animal realm, front and center fighting with her summons, Tsunade standing her ground and Naruto appearing right behind her. This would have been that moment for the Kushina theory to come to light but it didn’t. This doesn’t kill the Rin theory. That would happen if Kakashi sees her and doesn’t react. Since I’m obviously being proven wrong I’m a little disappointed but I’m never one to deny or run away from a statement. I can admit when I’m wrong. It appears that animal realm may just be a random character…
I thought considering the connection to Jiraiya with the other paths of Pain that she would be at least slightly significant, but it seems as though Nagato has just been using the dead bodies from the previous nin war that Jiraiya fought in to supply his little army… hmmmm oh well.
Yo Tsunade... we did it!
Tsunade is taken away to meet up with Sakura and as Erosennin put it “it ain’t over till Chouji’s momma sings”, well Chouji’s mom is definitely warming up at the very least… if you don’t know what I’m referring to, I’m talking about the end of Tsunade’s run. Look at the age lines appearing around her mouth, look at her hands growing old and frail. She’s literally given everything she had to save Konoha from complete annihilation and it worked. She’s saved many lives but it appears that she may have given her own in the process. Some of you may be screaming at your computer screen at me like you have been for months “Stop saying she’s going to die!” She’s just getting really old suddenly, she’s only out of chakra, she’s…
I just don’t see her making it out of this… Kakashi has a better chance of living than Tsunade in my opinion… Doesn’t it seem like this is setting up for her to give her life to save Kakashi like Chiyo did for Gaara? (Green reminded me)
You know it's bad when Naruto goes Thriller on us... Michael Jackson would be proud.
Naruto can now sense everyone’s chakra and realizes that Kakashi is not amongst the nin that he can sense in the village. He asks Tsunade if he’s out on a mission or something but Tsunade gives him the “….” answer, which is usually not a good sign. This probably means that Kakashi is just out of chakra, at least that’s what I keep telling myself. At any rate this enrages Naruto to Thriller levels and we can all tell by the look in his eyes that someone is about to catch one hell of a beating compliments of sage training.
We’ve all talked about what seems to be drama building by Kishi when it comes to Kakashi but are we starting to get a little worried here? The only thing that makes me feel a little better is that two different people have directly asked Tsunade about Kakashi now and neither time did she confirm his death. I would feel better about his chances if they had another couple pages of him talking to the White Fang at the creepy dead guy campfire family reunion… but they haven’t.
We have two characters lives hanging in the balance right now while Naruto tears into the paths of Pain… Who’s going to make it is the big question…
This is your last warning! Put your balls behind your back and come out with your hands up!
When Naruto took on Animal realm’s summons he decided that two balls in the hand were worth… complete pwnage of the summons apparently. The sage mode was obviously a giant leap forward for Naruto as we continue to see insane levels of power and skill improvement. Not only did he one hand Rasengan blast Laser head last issue but he has kage bunshins dropping R bombs on poor helpless animal summons now. All that potential chakra use is finally coming to fruition in these last couple issues.
In fact, his progression over the past 2 issues almost equals the progress he made in the first 429 issues. We are talking leaps and bounds, not baby steps any more. He used to be the fall behind early nin who’s sheer determination and inability to quit got him through fights. Now he appears to be the big angry kid on the block ready to destroy what ever gets in his way. Does this bother you at all? Or is it the pay off you’ve been waiting for?
I applied to Sage Tech but was turned away due to a low GPA... bastards.
I bet you all expected a “large balls” joke there didn’t you?! I think I pushed the limit last week when we found out Ibi likes it forced through the back door so I’ll tone it down for this issue ^_^
Size does apparently matter. To all those who took part in Ibi’s RASENGAN DEBATE a few weeks back, I’d have to say that this cinches the deal. I would think that Naruto’s Rasengan is even more powerful than Jiraiya’s giant Rasengan because it’s got that added kick of the wind element added to it that Jiraiya didn’t have.
Remember how lowly and weak his clones used to be? He really finally grew a pair… hehe couldn’t resist…
That's Preta funny how quickly this body of Pain got his ass handed to him ^_^
Preta Pain was just slightly more challenging than Laser Head. And by slightly I mean Preta actually saw Naruto coming unlike that poor dumb bastard Laser head, who’s last thoughts consisted of wondering what the other Pain bodies were looking at just before Naruto completely destroyed him from above. In case you were wondering what happened in that sequence, Naruto’s punch was so powerful that it killed Preta path in one shot because of the Natural energy that’s gathered in sage mode. (assist Narutopedia)
And when he farts he shoots out Amaterasu... sage mode is truly unbelievable!
When I first found out that Naruto was going to go through sage training I thought that he may be able to learn to control the Kyuubi. I was excited about this because of the many advantages the Kyuubi gave Naruto in a fight. But its starting to seem that Sage mode gives the same advantages to Naruto without the side effects. So why would he even need Kyuubi anymore. Or if he does gain control over his beast will it only add to his power like with the 8 tails? Many possibilities… what do you think?
Really? Two issues in a row? In two weeks nothing better came to you?
So this weeks final line from Naruto is just as wonderfully imaginative and original as last issues but he does tease the new move, though that is pretty text book as well. I do like the subtext to the left of the speech bubble “waves of rage!!!” , I’ll admit I’m intrigued. I was pretty sure his new move would be the Rasengan as a projectile but the “waves of rage” line makes me second guess that assumption. So among other things I’d like to hear in the comments section what you think it is. When he says “Waves” is he referring to like the waves of an ocean? Wind element + Water element? Just a thought. Or are you thinking the projectile Rasengan still? Let us know.
Well that’s it for this week. This issue was a really good one and at the rate we are going I think we are plowing toward a time skip this year. The hyper jump in power coupled with the huge number of unresolved issues leads me to think that the Pain story arc may signal the last story arc before a time skip. And to those who think Naruto is coming to an end, I whole heartedly disagree. Even in the face of what appears to be the soon to be crowned new Hokage Naruto. Sasuke, Madara, Raikage, 8 tails and a lot more stuff is left out there still to be resolved and that’s not going to all happen within the next year. This issue was awesomeness with him raising his pwning average to one path of Pain per issue, which is amazing but it leaves me wondering where does he go from here? I do thoroughly enjoy watching him finally get the recognition that is way over due… he’s still a Gennin technically remember… so I’m really looking forward to seeing this new move.
This issue had lots of visuals and very little talking or hints at other stuff so the review may have seemed a bit thin at times but I hope you still enjoyed it and I look forward to another week of discussion from everyone. Below are the winners from issue 430’s challenge on who could come up with something better for Naruto to say than Kishi did in his last frame and the winners are…
5) "Try to fia your lazza now!"Owtoe
4) “I feel no pain…” 
3) “Its time you understood the real meaning of pain, bitch…” 
2) “You’ve knocked them down. Now why don’t you try and knock me down!?” 
And the most Awesomeness comment from the “I could have come up with something better” challenge is…
1) “IT’S OVER 9000!IMPOSSIBLE!” 
If you don’t know Dragonball then you probably didn’t laugh when you read this comment by Real. But if you do then you got a chuckle out of it at the least or in my case made me spray the pepsi I was drinking when I was caught off guard by the power rating reference. The top two were both funny references to pop culture which I’m a sucker for. In case you didn’t pick it up #2 by Elasticatedninja was a Rocky reference, which was both very appropriate and awesomeness. #4 and #3 were straight up hard core and Kishi should have put something like that in there. #5 was funny cause I hate laser head. There were actually a lot of really good ones, some that would have been bad ass but this one actually made me laugh out loud, so that cinched up the top spot. Nice job Real, your awesomeness has been established.
Patrick Swayze's power rating is over 9000! Impossible!
Honorable mention: “Pain dont’ hurt.” 
The Swayze
That’s it for this week. So until next time…
Ja,
Jeremiah
P.S. Is everyone caught up on Bleach? Many of you have already noticed Yoroichi in the iareawesomeness banner…
And now your moment of Zen…
...and down will go baby, craddle and all... good night precious...
Thanks to Sleepyfans for the scanlation and Onemanga for the awesomeness.
ha!!!! first!!!1
no first for you bono!!! :p
lol Im suprised you didn’t show the picture of Preta Pain pwned on the ground drooling.
Good Point Fanboi, I’ll add that ^_^
Awesomeness
Did anyone notice the blade like item in Preta Pain’s right hand?
Or am I just seeing things again?
@ tinman: i saw it too, it’s just like when kakashi saved iruka from being owned by deva pain.
wow naruto use big balls to smack doggy in face!!!
lick my bawls mother fucka
lol Preta Pain = PWNED!
WOOT!
@ Fanboi – done and done. Bottom of the post ^_^
It was almost too easy for Naruto to own Preta. I am guessing that each path will get gradually more difficult for him until we get to Nagato. Then time skip.
Althouh…I almost feel as though there was already a time skip since Naruto has been out of the manga for so long (except for the brief obligatory panel ervery once in a while).
Even though its good to see Naruto powerful like this, Id like to see him gain some power/speed that he doesnt have to activate, aka Kuubi and Sage form. Without those, hes still not very strong. He had to go through some tough training to get sage mode though, I just wish it was permanent power.
@ Russ – So by your logic it will gradually get harder?
Laser head – didn’t even see it coming, one hit knock out.
Preta Pain – saw it coming, one hit knock out.
Human Realm – will see it coming, say something, one hit knock out.
^_^
Even though he had to go through harsh training to get sage mode, Id really like to see Naruto get some permanent power/speed, as in not having to activate it to use it, aka Kyuubi and Sage mode. He will be able to use this mode whenever he wants, but hes no stronger without it than he was before the training.
If Pain is smart, he will allow each body to buy him time and chip away at Naruto a piece at a time, slightly weaken him before God realm goes one on one against him. I also feel even if he beats all 6 bodies that they are disposable and he has a warehouse full of stasis chambers containing potential vessels to carry his 6 paths. Additionally Pain will be able to analyze Naruto’s fighting skills so the next time they fight, Pain will be better prepared.
My next hope is Tsunade and Sakura take a field trip to find Kakashi, maybe Tsunade will be able to revive him.
@ Miah…Exactly!
@ Orion – I actually think the traditional ninja tactic of attacking one at a time against a hero has been proven slightly misguided.
I would suggest they all attack him at once.
To chip away at something you have to be able to take that first chip
^_^
And to the second part of your comment… revive him… or give her remaining life to save his… just a thought.
Nice chapter
Agreed, she will probably work with Sakura to pull of a Granny Chiyo style technique.
Great job as always, Jeremiah! Glad I wasn’t drinking a Pepsi while reading.
Naruto in total pwnge-Sage mode. He has arrived as the hero everyone hoped for, just hope Kishi doesn’t have him trip over that new sage coat in the next issue.
Even though Tsudade saved the lives of so many villagers, she still ended up looking weak. It would have been nice to see her take out one of the realms before handing off the rest to Naruto.
As far as unresolved subplots, we also still have an Orochi infused Kabuto out there somewhere. Hmmm.
I don’t think there’ll be a timeskip.
you guys are missing something, pain’s just testing out how strong naruto is… it ain’t going to be that easy… notice in the formation it was animal, human, and hatever pain in fron, followed by god realm and THEN it was hell realm. what i’m seeing is that Naruto kicks the but of the other two pain’s and then he thinks it’s basically over and goes after god realm… while he’s fighting god realm, he get’s hit from ehind with one of demon realms missiles, to naruto’s surprise all the other pain’s are perfectly healthy again… this time they realize that it was hell realm that revived the other bodies and that he’ll have to destroy him… the problem is now that pain will begin to use combo attacks.. and when that’s all done with he’ll have to face God realm… there has to be a reason why jiraya wasn’t able to do the same thing and that’s cause they began to use combo moves.
These damned mange characters need to get in the habit of carrying a meat cleaver so they can cut the enemies body up in to manageable sized pieces they can scatter.
Example;
Take the guy that killed Asuma. If he used a wind sword and cut his body into 10 or 15 piece then scattered them with an explosive technique, he would have still died by Hidan, but the other guy would have been too difficult to put back together for Hidan to bother with.
Take all these damned realms of Pain, butcher his body up after you defeat it. Don’t knock him out with a punch, leave him drooling, walk over him, and proceed on to the next fight. Use your sage power with your wind element to cut both his arms and legs off and feed them to the frogs behind you.
Our manga characters could take some tips from the organized crime families.
@orion8301
LOL…Hidden Leaf-La Cosa Nostra.
Pain is getting his assed kicked but the other realms are just buying time until god realm can use his Jedi jutsu again and then they will use their combo attacks.
Also each realm is weakened since god realm used the darkside of the force move on the entire village. That is one reason why they are getting ko’d so easily.
But still give Naruto credit he is kicking ass and taking names, no matter whether pain was at full strength or not it is game over for him.
oh no a moderation jutsu *I will use my waves of rage to overcome it* hahahaha!!!
@ Orion – lolz! Awesomeness.
@ Alec – very possible and probable. He has used a different technique each time and now he’s about unleash his secret weapon. Couldn’t show his hand anymore than he is >_<
Isn’t it about time Danzou made his move now that Granny Tsunade is really beginning to age or did he get taken out by the Shira Tensei too?
@orion8301- Sorry to spam, but I was still chuckling about your mafia analogy… or maybe it should be called The Yakuza analogy.
Could it have the makings of a fanfic?
Any way, Naruto Pwns the six raalms, then finds Negato and Konan. We see them having a conversation, but don’t know what is said.
Later Naruto finds Tsunade and says that he’s taken care of things. She asks, “What about Negato?” Naruto replies, “Le’s jus’ say ah made ‘im an offah he couldn’ rafuse. Ah tole ‘em tha’ one day ah migh’ ask em a favah, tha’ he coul’n’ rafuse….”(Excuse the terrible attempt at visually writing in mobster dialect)
It could work… aahhh.
it’s crazy im expecting neji, lee, gai really pissed off can’t wait to see them in action
I don’t think there should be another time skip. What would Naruto, Sasuke, and Akatsuki be doing during these 2-3 years. Resting? Training? Obviously Naruto and Sasuke are strong enough. Neither needs anymore training. And many plots are already in motion. Plus, what would they have between the time skip? Iruka Gaiden? =)
You know about the waves of rage part ?
i thought it was saying
naruto is having waves of rage.
E.g. finding out about kakashi, konoha like destroyed ?
@ Green – yeah for sure. It alludes to everything going on, I don’t think that is the actual name of the technique or anything. But it may hint at the emotion or even as Alec referred to the waves of Pain as in one after another.
ahh right okay
btw awesome analasis or however you spell it as usual
the old chiyo techinique keeps coming into my mind
the life transferral from tsunade to kakashi
anyone else with this idea ?
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Even though he had to go through harsh training to get sage mode, Id really like to see Naruto get some permanent power/speed, as in not having to activate it to use it, aka Kyuubi and Sage mode. He will be able to use this mode whenever he wants, but hes no stronger without it than he was before the training.
Nova said this on January 16, 2009 at 3:59 pm
…What do you mean permanent? sage mode doesn’t disappear..since he learned sage mode its what makes him stronger and faster…he can activate it anytime.
wow..didn’t think i’d make top 5 on the 430 challenge.
also, damn..past few chapters was like porn for me…pure orgasmic pwnage….
Well even if he uses his new move he still has a possible ace in the hole. That big scroll on his back. I’m sure its not just for show and if it is someone should be shot!!!
there is a possibility he might use that jutsu. but I doubt it since I found it pecular when he said ” new move”. If you think about it, his newest move shown so far was fuuton rasin shuriken. That jutsu was taught to him already between the time skip. He actually nvr used it, but it doesn’t mean its his new move now that he is able to use it with sage powers. I could be wrong, but it just seems too soon for that to occur. and his hand signs looked similar as kage bunshin.
Did anyone else notice the rhino on page 4 had rippled eyes(like all of Peins bodies) and what appears to be a rod in it’s forehead. In fact all of the animals Pein summoned have rippled eyes and rods(the dog has something on it’s nose, you can’t see the bull’s eyes but it has 2 non horn things sticking out of its head)
Does that mean they are all animated bodies like the 6 paths
@iamnotreallythere
I think so, they didn’t have any personality, something the rest of the summons in the series did have.
I think the first page of 431 basically proves that God Realm isn’t Nagato, since he talks about “God Realm” in third person.
awesomeness naruto will kick pain for sure
This was mentioned before by a few people, Russ, orion8301, randomthought etc…
I was thinking along these lines as well, but the more of Pain’s bodies Naruto takes out the stronger the others will get. When Pain used Shinra Tensei he gathered energy from his other bodies to increase the power of one. Naturally I would think that sinc Naruto knocks more and more down Nagato would just divert the power from those bodies into the rest. At the same time God Realm is recovering. By the time Naruto attacks the rest God Realm would be back to average and then some. In addition to all that Naruto still has to deal with Human and Naraka whom both respectively have the ability to rip a person’s soul out of their own body.
This is a joke however this is how bad it could truly go.
*Naraka catches Naruto’s throat*
Naruto: What is tha…
Naraka: I destroyed Ichimaki Ramen! It was me!
Naruto: You bastard its a lie, its a lie, your lying I won’t believe it! Believe it! (O.o)
Naraka: The truth is all around you know this, now burn it into your eyes!
*Hell King begins extracting Naruto’s soul*
*Naruto saves himself by doing Rasengun just in time*
*Naraka and Hell King are defeated*
Naruto *Tears streaming down eyes* : ******!
Deva *Shinra Tensei*
Anyway thats a little how I expect things to go if the battle drags on.
On another note where is Konan. Why do I get the feeling she is going to end up getting hurt protecting Nagato in some way. Either that or she has given up entirely on the matter and is letting Naruto destroy bodies from lack of interest.
O.K. new rule: Close only counts in horseshoes, hand grenades, and now Naruto Sage Mode punches. Imagine if that would have hit square on.
What about what Pa toad says, “In Sage mode, he’s more Dangerous and his attacks have a greater reach than usual.” I think this is a clear sign that flying Rasenshuriken is about to come out and play. If I’m wrong it will definitely be a long distance attack. A definite first for Naruto. Lets face it, if Naruto was a long range weapon he would be brass knuckles.
pain admitted, out loud, that jiraiya would have beat him if he hadn’t kept his true nature a secret. and seeing that naruto’s sage mode is more complete than jiraiya’s, it’s pretty fair to say that naruto is gonna smash that punk.
so honestly is it just me or did naruto just kill the two gayest versions of pain? obviousely laserhead was a dbag… but preta pain had to be in second just because of the way he looked when he escaped kibas moms gatsuga…. http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/427/13/
he looks like a freaking spider… i hate spiders!
I think waves of rage is a specially designed move to counter god realms major move, the one he is recharging for… the one that destroyed konoha… for that everyone may have to be moved out of konoha or protected, kakashi or even naruto may need protection then – tsunade can use up remaining chakra and hence life and so die. and then the waves of rage… i think!
haha i have no idea, but the Rocky song didn’t work out for me… but what really hit the spot was Deepack’s- “Here’s Johnny”… but what i see being an awesome amv is combining the fighting between naruto and Pain with “Raver”- Showtek cause naruto is just a motherf***in’ raver with a hardstyle flavour
is kakashi really dead as naruto cannot sense his chakra
waves of rage is going to be a S-Rank water jutsu, i know because a japanese friend told me and his dad knows kishimoto
Sorry Alec. I’ll choose Rocky music over raver music any day…
@_@
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What if naruto got sharingan from itachi and naruto gets kakashis eye because half his body is crushed like obito and he gets mangankyo sharingan. (puts flame shield on, Drinks anti flame potion, protoss batter anti flame shield)
@ Glen – That is the least I’ve ever seen you say.
Hey.
Stop spelling disappoint and disagree incorrectly. The only reason disservice has two Ss is because service is the root word. Appoint and Agree are the roots for the other two. One S.
this was truly a great issue cant wait for the next one…. i wonder when gai and team will finally arrive to the village
@ annoyed – Gee thanks mom. Nice job playing the part of English teacher on a blog entitled “i are awesomeness”. That is correct grammar, ain’t it? If it wasn’t I would be seriously dissapointed with myself…
-_-
I was just wondering why j-man wasn’t this badass in sage mode? was it because it was a complete sage mode? J-man’s and Naruto’s sage mode techniques have been differen’t so far. If J-man did indeed have same abilities as naruto right now( like chakra sensing nd that frog katas) why couldn’t he sense the real pain wasn’t there or kick soem pain ass using frog katas.
sorry i meant “best nin in the world” in my last comment
Well I remember reading somewhere in nthe manga that if a ninja was to use the last drop of his chakra, i mean if were to go down completly to 0%, he would die for sure even if he´s the best nin in the world.
I don´t think he can be revived since the only reviving tech we saw was chiyo´s and as far as we know that jutsu died along with her, but who knows kishi might surprise us.
Yeah I’ve seen kakashi say that himself. My guess is kakashi is actually dead and comes back to life somehow. Either a chiyo reviving jutsu used by tsunade(god i hope not) or his talk with his dad awakens a hidden power within him or a hidden MS power? Remember tobi is suposively madara. If it is madara he is hella old(i think itachi said madara was immortal)
hehe i hope so too. If kakashi revives outta nowhere that would just mean the overused “son, its still too soon for you, you have a lot of things left you must live”
PD: are you mexican? i am
oh yeah, about you j-man comment.
He might had been unabloe to sense nagatos chakra because of an special barrier that prevented his chakra from being sensed it, i mean so far he has proven to be really cautious and remember that j-man was gathering intel on him, he wasn´t trying to kill him so we will never know how strong he really was in sage mode and pain was serious on j-man sinse the very begining. He might just be teasing naruto right now but naruto might be still able to defeat pain even if he stops holding himself off because naruto already has all the intel he needed he doesn´t have to figure out anything while fighting him so naruto doesnt have to be fight the way jiraiya did
sorr i meant “naruto doesnt have to fight…”
…(2X)
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i checked the box below that said notify me of followup comments via email and now i cant see the manage my subscription link
i wanted to go home and drop out naruto but the regular emails i get is provoking me so much that i am almost going to explode
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also, kakashi isn’t dead stop forcing him to the afterlife when you are supposed to be kicking the shit out of mashashi to get him back to life -___-
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@glen, i know exactly how you feel…
Why doesnt pain use all the bodies at once? I mean isnt that why Rinnegan is so powerful. You can see what the other bodies see. Why didn’t anyone assist demon realms attacks? Is Nagato testing his power? Toying with him like he did with Jiraiya? God I hope not. Pains pwning spree really needs to end soon!
@FANBOI. i think he is measuring naruto’s abilities.
@namikze, actually, i just don’t feel any thing of think of anything to say. hehehe
omg!!! i cant wait 2 c how gai reacts to kakashi being lyk pretty much dead!!! he mite turn towards depression if he dies, then lee will be all lyk “gai sensei!! i challenge you to do 5000 push-ups using chopsticks!!” and then gai will be all “lee……. im busy being depressed, go do that thing somewhere else” *morbidly depressed luk on his face. poor lee’s all lyk “gai sensei????” *tear rolls down face.
and then gai goes insane and tries 2 take over the world.
Naruto’s advantages from j man’s lost. No form of pain seen is the real one. J man fought with the 2 elder toads while naruto is owning with the top 5. Unlike jman, naruto knows of some of pain’s abilities….so there’s an advantage there. And I hate to admit it( I really do) but even if tsunade makes it out of this…..she won’t last much longer….and that’s the overall factor
I can’t wait to see Naruto vs. the real Nagato… Do people eventually see Madara vs. Sasuke (Sasuke win) and then the eventual final of Naruto vs. Sasuke or do you want to see Naruto vs. Madara and Naruto vs. Sasuke, I’d rather have the former, the less frames with Sasuke the better imo.
@glen, yea… that’s, uh, what i meant too… *shifty eyes*
@fanboi, Pain’s strategy right now is actually kinda good. On page one you see the 5 remaining realms shift into an ‘I’ formation with Human-, Animal-, & Preta Pain on the front line, Naraka Pain in the rear and Deva Pain in the center. Deva is still recovering so it makes sense to protect him right now. Naraka’s ability to heal instantly heal the bodies with his King of Hell technique (Ch.430 p.13) sorta gives him the medical nin role and explains why he should be the last line of defense. I also have a feeling that he needs time to recharge after using the technique.
With Animal Realm fighting long-distance with summons, Preta on defense, and Human Realm ready for close-combat(he’s strong too… remember he was able to stop a sage mode J-man punch with just one hand in mid-air [ch377 p15]), Pain’s pretty much ready for anything… except a badass Naruto throwing summons hundreds of feet in the air, putting his balls on their foreheads, and punching through Preta’s ‘perfect’ defense without actually punching him.
Hmm, I hope Nauto’s new jutsu won’t be a disappointment. I hope it’s not a new Rasengan variant and if it is it should be a long range version.
No, what I’m hoping for is that this new jutsu of his is actually something totally unseen before. Maybe something only Minato could do to some degree. I’m thinking here about a space/time jutsu but it’s highly unlikely that this jutsu is anything but explosive. So I’m guessing this jutsu will be something explosive.
I was looking back at http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/418/10/ and remembering that panel where he was wet looked an awful lot like when Naruto was first learning how to cut water with his wind chakra. Could the cloud on page 10 be essentially his clones lined up ready to unleash a line of wind capable of cutting anything in its path? Similar to Pain’s Violent Wind Palm technique except it’s mixed with natural energy so that, similar to Preta Path, you can’t just ‘dodge’ the wave to avoid getting hit. Plus you get sliced in half as an added bonus.
Naruto would have been unable to do such a large scale slice without the Kyuubi chakra getting in the way. But with Sage mode, he could still accomplish this easily with no fears of transforming.
Of course Naruto could also just try a Rasengan with wind and natural energy. I sure wouldn’t want to be on the receiving end of that technique either!
Does anyone think that sasuke is coming back soon, to help kill off Pain, catch Danzo, and realize that his ambition of crushing Konoha has already manifested, which will Just leave Madara to kill, which he knows he will not be able to acheive with out the help of his brother from a different mother?… or am i just day dreaming?
don’t you think naruot is moving too fast?
he’s not even gauging pain’s capabilities
i think we’ll all be surprised on the end if naruto gets pawned ny pain and extracts the kyuubi inside him..
lols
Since everyone is having a hard time dealing with the Kakashi incident I have created a small theory to cheer a few people up.
I’m sure you have all noticed it by now. Everytime Kakashi uses the Sharingan he is drained of his chakra. One week, two weeks maybe more. Each time he is forced to rest. And now years later after developing the Mangeko Sharingan the periods of rest are longer and the outcomes more troubling. As it stands from the last battle he can’t move at all, not some joke but full blown one step closer to one of Pain’s bodies. I won’t tip toe around it he may actually be dead. Don’t screw with me you know that campfire was bad.
So what is the answer where do we place our logic. The solution is the same as the problem. The very thing that makes Kakashi the current Shinobe that he is and the same thing that continues to keep him weaken. Obito’s Sharingan, no Kakashi’s Sharingan. This is where to place your hope. The Sharingan is a constant drain on Kakashi’s chakra, it is never off. So what do we have to do. Deactivate it. Simple short and no less vague. But how you say, that thing won’t go off by itself.
There is what your looking for. We take the Sharingan out of Kakashi. To save his life or even offer the chance it is appears as if a must. The eye that keeps offering him so much, is hindering his chakra reserve. With it he can’t even recover as easily as anyone else. Right now in his moment of death even as he lies there it is taking from what ever he has got. By removing it we hold the narrow chance of allow him to regain even a fraction of chakra. With that Kakashi’s life would extend and his chances of coming to life probably several times higher than with it.
Do you agree with me? If not maybe your ready to accept what s happening but if not then above is one of your chances for hope.
I also had another theory that the reason Kakashi’s chakra can’t be detected is by uses the Mengeko Sharingan in the same way as Tobi he has entered an existence where he isn’t physically determined to be there. Time Space Jutsu existence anyone. Just something from Tobi, but still you know…
I’m sure all that will happen is either, kishi wraps all the side syorys quickly and ends the series OR somnething will happen that makes Sage mode unavailable for naruto or alot weaker… >.<
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0vRt1hKq6w&feature=dir
the swayze lives on
Does anyone else notice how utterly badass naruto looks in the bottom right pick on page 7
@alec: I vote for ‘someone’s gonna get their head kicked in tonight” by the Rezillos
@jeremiah: It worked for me. ‘Eye of the Tiger’, not so much.
i’m pretty sure waves of rage will be dat move he used to cut the mountains in half…bak when he was training wit the frogs
i have a feeling naruto and pain are going to have an all out war like goku and buu. then naruto starts to lose but out of no where
kakashi flies in and says “i broke obitos promise once and i will not break it agian!”
the promise being dont let your comrades die again or something
and rin being the reason he broke it the first time
For one I think Tsunade will be just fine she got like this once before but even faster when she saved naruto awhile back like AWHILE back in the anime. Though Kakashi I think has less of a chance of making it that Tsunade does, I’m sad to say it seeing as he’s my 2nd fav char and all but I believe it’s the truth.
As for Naruto’s new move It might be something like what he used to split the mountains while he was sage training solo at night while the frog was sleeping. His long distance move he used though while they didn’t really show what it was and only showed the mountain split.
If you watch the anime as well you’ll notice Sasuke has come up with a lightning based move sorta like naruto’s wind based move to split things or cut things from a distance which I find rather interesting.
Think back to when Naruto was training alone after everyone else had gone to bed. Remember the tops of the mountains he was cutting the tops off of. This has to be the jutsu he is refering to. I beleive he will use this in his current battle and he may be able to throw more than one or have control over the direction of the one that does not break down on each impact but cuts thru what it strikes and then continues on to the next and so on. He could actually chase the remaining Pains off or cut them to shreds (this is what I am hoping for) with one move… This would really scare the shit out of Nagato seeing all his realms of pain actually pwnd by one person and one move. So keep an eye out for any flying fuuton: rasen-shuriken or maybe just a large Fuuton-Shuriken w/o the rasengan added. If he can create two huge Rasengan balls ( do I hear AC/DC in the background: I’ve got great big balls of fire). Remember he has wind based chakara and if he uses it like Asuma(God rest his soul) then he could create something massive with his new found sage powers. Wind also is nature based so he could gather the four winds and combine them into one huge shuriken that would cut thru mountains like a hot knife thru butter… The realms of pain best beware his next move because it may just be the last they ever see.
Naruto + Sage mode = pawnage of the realms of Pain!!
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/418/10/
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/421/10/
This is Naruto’s new jutsu I forgot to add to my last post as my evidence of what he is fixing to unleash on the realms of Pain.
u know naruto can sense chakra now, maybe he can sense nagato and is keeping it a secret as some sort of trump card. he might be waiting till all of the pains are taken out and when nagato tries to escape or revive them naruto gets out the shovel and administers shovel to face justice.
oh and naruto will probably end up having a showdown with the kyubi at some point to gain control. maybe a clone goes kyubi or akatski extract the kyubi and naruto manages to live like gaara did, that last one doesnt seem likeley, it would seem to repetitive.
narutos momentum will eventualy run out, hel lose sage mode and well have two manga issues of pain going,
“aha u have lost ur strength now u will feel pain, because i am pain, and pain is good. did i mention my name is pain!!??! well it is!PAIN! and u r just a pathetic underdog, not like pain, who is me! not nagato! cause im not nagato”
then big suprise, at the last minute, naruto will use clones to gather chakra and gain sage mode again. so hell still have that struggling to win theme that runs in all other fights.
Wheres the poll asking who´ll win the Naruto vs Pain fight already?
Also, will Danzo kill Tzunade-sama?
Whos gonna join the Battle?
Im saying Naruto will barely win against Pain, as Tsunade gets taken out by “Root”, next Root gets Susannooed by Sasuke for his little revenge fetishs sake, and finally Madara shows up, capturing Naruto, stealing Kakashis eye, raping Sakura, eating the towns last ramen and then riding into the dusk, singing a cowboys song!
And im some guy from the internet, so i must know!
Im sticking by it being the idea of it being RasenShurikan
But he’ll throw it
Back when he owned Kakuzu with it,
it was only half way done and that took 2 of kakuzus lifes
Im thinking a clone distraction with sage mode special rasenshurikan behind it.
@MosesGunn But im loving the idea of a cutting wind like move that he learnt alone. Like a huge slicing wave
what would be awesome
Maybe that the big role Kakashi has to play is simply giving his eye to Saucegay. I mean, his vision is getting worse because of MS so, it would be welcome if saucegay could have an eternal MS. PLus your theory that Kakashi can’t die because of what Kishi said could be wrong: I don’t think you need to be alive to be… beeyed (Does this word exists?). I think Kakashi will die and then Saucegay will do something stupid, as usual and Konoha will finally give him Kakashi’s sharigan and it will ba an epic battle. Madara’s eternal Ms angainst Saucegay’s one.
@fanboi th for stealing my avatar now ive to hange it again
Sorry for the double post but I just thought of something. J man said that Minato knew something of grave importance and so that he sealed only the yand chakra of the kyuubi inside Naruto. Maybe he knew what Madara in the name of akatsuki was plotting and therefore he did so. Maybe that Naruto will be defeated this time and the same thing that happend to Gaara will happen to him. But, because he only has the yang chakra, the big weapon Akatsuki is trying to build won’t work. then comes the hunt of the ying part. it gives time to saucegay to understand some vital things, and what I said in my first post happens, only that this time, it would be a big battle Naruto and Saucegay vs Nagato (pain) and Madara. Like that, we can see who is the child of the prophecy and who is the strongest among the Uchihas…
i HOPE the new jutsu will be some kind of wind blade that he can send out flying in the air cuting anithing.
@ Charzelo – but at least your Zabuza icon is pretty dope.
man
Who thinks naruto would now pwn sasugay?
read the manga last page at the bottom it hints its a meelee attack
read the last page of manga youll see that it hints that its a meelee attack
i do.
I just saw this issue today. I Can’t believe i was like one of the last persons to see this issue!!!! reason being, I had to go to a college track meet this weekend and i learned one thing in life is DAMN true. . . “black people ARE fast”. . . .alot faster than what i thought previously. Well anyways aside from getting my ass handed to me at the meet, seeing this chapter made my weekend a WHOLE LOT BETTER. Amazing show of skill from Naruto, boy is stepping it up.
are bijuu natural occurring chakra given shape and form?
@charzelo: Shit i was looking around the previous comments if anyone was using Madara. Sorry xD. Madara is my favorite antagonist by far.
It’s pretty obvious that Sasuke is going to interfere.
I beleive naruto will get his ass handed to him somehow maybe by madara. BUT the 8 tailed demon is going to save naruto.
i changed my avatar 2 killer bee like 3 days ago. wtf?
can anyone answer the bijuu quetion?
@ highkage: that doesn’t matter. maybe they’re huige animals with a lot of chakra and a lot of intelligence, or maybe they’re just a lot of chakra with a brain and a body. point is: they’re super strong. ;P
wouldn’t sage mode give naruto better control over bijuu if they were made of natural chakra?
Bijuus are completely composed of chakra as said in this panel by Madara and Karin. http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/404/14/
imagine his hurricane rasengan in sage mode thats how hell kill nagato. His power to deflect only happens for one shot and the H.R. sends attacks to all of your cells
@ highkage: not really, cuz sage chakra comes from SURROUNDINGS, not things inside you. kinda like spirit bomb: you don’t need to be in super saiyan (aka kyubi)to do it, but it’s still as lot of energy.
ok heres my theory on the awesome manga. Naruto is really strong but pain is a “god” for a reason. He is testing naruto’s powers and trying to find out his secrets before sending all of his clones into a battle. i dont know who said this but he is in defensive formation, he not trying to win right now, he just testing him. Preta pain can be revived as long as naruto is kept busy and animal realm keeps summoning stuff.
THe reason Jman couldnt sense chakra was because his sag emode was complete while naruto’s is. but wat i don’t understand is how jman was so much physically weaker then naruto, he learned th same moves and stuff but how could human realm just block his punches like that.
@ anon: senjutsu is a combination of internal and external chakra, not just external (surroundings).
pain wasn’t stroner than jiraiya. jiraiya just didn’t find out his secret til it was 2 late.
Maybe the new technique comes from Itachi…
it not that naruto is crazly powerful that all the pains are weak its that pain used shinre tensei which weakrned them and he collected all the power left with in the other pain and put them into god realm so naruto iis going to have a hard fight with god realm. and also naruto giant rasengan doesnt have wind element chakra in it. its the futon rasenshuriken that has the wind element in it.
one more thing sage mode is really powerful but its nothin like kyuubi
does anyone else think that the reason killer bee is alive still is to train naruto to control the nine tails….what else is there for him to learn?
i think they will meet.who knows what’ll happen after that.
imagine if naruto and B fight. that would be epic……
hey who hold tsunadi`s hand and said well done. which one do u think is donzou, kakashi, madara or sasuki?
@ bori: non of the above.maby it was the 1st talking 2 tsunade.
@bari: sorry i spelled your name wrong
nah it is kool thanks by the way
what do u mean the 1st?
Next chapter “Melee” or “violent free-for-all”
Certainly with Naruto and the toads vs. Negato and the paths of pain we’ve got enough bodies (and bad intent) for a melee, but what if all the potential players who may be heading towards Konoha show up?
1. Madera/Tobi (are they heading to the Leaf?)
2. Killer Bee and Hachibi ?
3. Yamato and Sai (where are they?)
4. Negato and Konan
5. Sasuegay and Team Hawk
6. Maaaiiittooooo Gaaaaiiiiii and Team Gaaaiiii
7. Team Samui sent by the Raikage from the Hidden Cloud
8. Douchebag Danzou and Anbu Root
Now that would make a melee! And…I’m sure someone is missing from this list. Seriously there is a ton of badness heading to the ruins of Konoha. Will they all show up at once or in dribbles; will they show up before or after the main event is finished? My brain, such as it is, hurts just thinking of the possibilities. Does anyone think that Naruto and Pain will finish this fight without somebody showing up to, spoil this showdown, help one side, take advantage of the situation…? I hope we get a satisfying finish to the fight.!?
@Tinman- I like your assessment of the flying fuuton:rasen-shuriken…errr…Mountain top cutting technique. Hope he gets to use it to pwn the rest of the paths.
why is it that naruto’s last name is uzumaki and not mizuke?..
what happened to kushina?..
sage mode will not be naruto’s trump card against pain, nor his new jutsu,
the fght will be like his recent fights, after a few episodes his ass will be kicked by nagato, then he’ll talk about his love for the village and the people of konoha will cheer for him and he gets due recognition and he’ll have a surgeofadrenaline rush and he will retaliate and kill NAGATO…amp
@ bari: i ment the 1st hokage.
@ anti_nagato_syndicate- Kushina’s last name was Uzumaki. I think they gave Naruto his mom’s last name to protect him from potential enemies. The Third forbade anyone from talking about Naruto’s “delicate condition”; I surmise that using Uzumaki as his surname helped in that regard also.
If you follow Kishi’s formula for previous Naruto fights, your analysis of the form this fight mght take is spot on.
man i’m tellin you guys, pain wouldn’t have beaten jiraiya if he wouldn’t have kept the nature of his doujutsu technique a secret.
@anti-nagato-syndicate: thats definitly gonna happen, naruto always fights like that. getting his ass kicked the then at the last minute gets inspired by the village or some friend and finishes the fight.
my only doubt is that naruto has never really entered a fight and completely pawned an opponent like this. he always has a bit of staring, a few little tricks that do sod all, then the enemy starts to win. Then the routine continues. maybe the realms are just the lead up to the real fight with nagato.
at one point sage mode will ware off, the frogs will say things like its impossible and hes gonna lose. then naruto will use a clone to go into sage mode again and the pa toad will praise him for it. just like how he used the foxs chakra agains neji or wen he first used the resengan or wen he used the rasenshuriken. get my point lol
Preta Pain – all mere “zombies.” But, it ain’t over yet…
I, too, was sooooo ticked off that I had to wait for “forever” to read this manga. The last one left me wanting more. This episode was pure “awesomeness!” I can’t wait for the next issue!
Agreed: there is so much to be resolved: What about Danzo? (There are political-behind the scenes stuff going on with Danzo wanting the Hokage title and willing to see Konoha destroyed for his own benefit.) Speaking of Danzo: where the hell is Sai? We see Sakura…Of course there is Sasuke, which I think Naruto will have to make a very emotional decision regarding – to kill or not to kill (remember the “power” that Itachi gave to Naruto?), Raikage and his rampage against Sasuke and his cohorts, 8 tails, Kakashi and, well, any further development in relationships (the Sakura versus Hinata debate – Kishi had better get some help in developing this one).
Regarding Tsunade, remember that she uses a jutsu that makes her appear to be younger than her years – it’s just her bustline that reflects her age. In the earlier Naruto phase, when the Oro fight took place, her jutsu was wearing off due to extreme fatigue. Then, her “instant facelift” returned after resting. She’ll be back, but with the realization that her days as Hokage are numbered. Kakashi won’t be so lucky…
Another item: when, in God’s name, will anyone clue Naruto in about who is parents are???? I mean, jeez, he is the son of a powerful Hokage and a strong Anbu. Shouldn’t someone TELL him? Like he has time to do any kind of ancestry search…
This also may be a minor point but…when is Naruto going to receive the ninja ranking he truly deserves? It is just yet another reminder of how many underestimate Naruto, which is unfair. In my opinion, at the very least, he is a higher level Chuunin if not an outright Jonin (ok, leadership abilities may be in question but no one is perfect). Any thoughts on this from anyone? Or, is it just me that’s stuck on a minor point? Oh, and his “apprentice” should be Konohamaru. Perhaps his other two: the snot nosed kid and Moegi will come along for the ride (?)
Keep up the great work. Love the postings, opinions and theories. They make me lol.
@ bari- Sakura was holding Tsunade’s shriveled hand.
I got the impression from the way that the text bubble was drawn, that this was Kishi himself inserting the general sentiment “Well done, Tsunade.” If so, he may be foreshadowing her honorable death…
maby tsunade will die maby she wont but i think konoha will still need a new hokage ether way.
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@highkage-Whether or not Tsundade remains Hokage, and I would argue that few alive could do it better. We can agree that whoever is Hokage, they will need a new assistant. RIP – Shizune…
wouldnt u like to know- it is not a girls hand, it is a man`s hand lol. loook at the pic carefully.
@bari- I may be wrong but look at the sleeve and skirt that go with the hand. They are similar to what sakura’s wearing 2 panels prior to this panel. Also in that prior panel Sakura is running towards Tsundade. I still say it’s Sakura holding her hand.
Oh god, he used two ultimate balls, pray the new move isn’t ultimate mushroom stamp
In one of the tsunade-sakura slides someone says “well done tsunade”…bet thats danzo
Im thinking ‘waves of rage’ is gonna be an amped up shadow clone techneque. Look at his hand sign in the last frame.
@fanboi no probs i needed to change my avatar anyway, im glad you have good taste. he loves to manipulate people. unlike oro, he knows exatly what he’s doing
@jeremiah zabuza was the one who put kakashi on the map, their fight was the reason why i started watching the series
Yeah I can understand where a lot of you are coming from but the truth is. As much as we prefer kakashi. Kishi won’t do that. Think about how important tsunade is to the leaf village. I don’t think that she would give her life for just one person while the village is going to need her more than ever. I believe kakashi is going to somehow come back to life. Either by a new jistu by naruto or by the talk he has with his dad the white fang. Honestly do believe that naruto is going to kill the 6 paths of pein. And the paper bitch and the real pein which I think is nagato we flea while he recovers. This leaves the question of danzo. The frogs know that something happend to the messenger frog so I wonder if they can bring that back danzo. That would be intresting because that mean that anbu might have to fight against anbu. I think naruto won’t be able to handle it himself because he would be to tired from his fight with pein. But the next manga chapters will obviously tell of that. And bout the time skip. I could maybe see that happening. Only if when pain gets back they have to deal with the 8tailed beast and there hokage. And what I would think would be kinda cool is if naruto becomes hokage after the time skip. Konoha is rebuilt and sasuke trys to destoy konoha then and we see the battle of the ages!!! Oh yeah and bout the kabuto oro thing. That’s really up in the air. No idea how he can match the power of pein….
ok, i’m juat gonna come out and say it — I think pain is a punk. i say this because all he does is hide behind those 6 realms. i know naruto uses alot of shadow clones but at least he fights along side them; he’s not off in another country or something, unless pain just doesn’t have an actual body… for a shinobe that just seems really punk@$$ to me… feel free to agree or disagree.
It is definitely Sakura who is holding Tsunade’s hand. Not sure if it is Kishi saying “well done Tsunade” or not. It may be Danzo is fixing to show his true color and take her out while she is very weak. We will have to wait and see, but he seems the type to strike while someone is unable to defend themselves. Beware the ides of March Tsunade. Et tu Danzo! About Naruto still being a Genin, he may become the first Hokage that doesn’t reach the Jounin rank.! Naruto’s new rank is SAGE and this trumps Jounin I think and possibly Hokage. Until Kishi finishes Kakashi and his campfire reunion with his dad I say it is possible for Kakashi to come back to us. Please Kishi don’t take my Kakashi away.! Now it will take a miracle of sorts for Shizune to come back, seeing as her sould was ripped from her body. But did Human Realm (I think this is who took her soul) actually absorb her or did God Realm call him with his summoning jutsu before he had the chance to injest her soul? Any thoughts on how one would return a soul to their body or maybe she will take on the Swayze for ghost domination, lol… The Swayze rules as does Captain Planet!
@ i think i know how to deactivate the sharingan. remember that kakashi is out of chakra now, and sharingan constantly uses consumes his chakra, meaning to say, if he is out of chackra, he sharingan won’t work, this time it will turn off it self. then when kakashi wakes up ( i hope) he have to learn how to activate his sharingan, then as he learns to, he will also learn how to deactivate it.
problem solve.
haha at 1:29 of that rocky video did anyone else notice the kid with the broken arm?
nobody said “well done tsunade” it’s not written on a speech bubble. it’s like kishi just added that. no one said those words. look carefully.
it’s just kishi
@ Jeremiah- haha, but somebody has to be freakin’ trippin in this part, i mean have you seen there eyes? it’s like Pain and naruto cleared out the village just so they could throw a huge ass fight party, plus they’re totally tripping nuts, especially pain who’s wondering why naruto is so thoroughly kicking his ass so far…
yet again, another point at which our opinions differ… but to each their own…
wow. i called pain a punk-@$$ and no one disagreed?
On the subject of Shizune, Naruto doesn’t mention not sensing her Chakra, so maybe once Pein is smashed she’ll recover from whatever condition she is in, it seems to me that if she were dead Naruto would have noticed since he can now sense everyone’s chakra, and dead people have no chakra. It is also possible that we are wrong and that is not her soul being ripped from her, but something else entirely. In any case we should not be jumping to conclusions on anything right at the moment. This is just my opinion on the matter though, and you are free to think what you will.
maybe naruto just didn’t bother to sense for shizune’s chaackra. she is not that important. lol!
@驚くばかり glen07: lol. Shizune couldn’t get her chakra sensed in a bar at 3 in the morning.
lol!
sorry but where does it say that the sharingan is constantly draining kakashi’s chakra? i thought it drained his chakra when it was opened, hence why he wears his headband over his eye.
I freakin waited fer this!
i think what he means by waves of rage is like a huge like wave of wind is going to fuckin own pain
don’t take rage of waves literal. it’s something more than describing the new jutsu. yah know.
my take on it is that it is danzou. those types of bubbles are used when someone outside of the perspective says something. danzou kills tsundae. also, narutos final move is definatley a long ranged fuuton rasengan. end of discussion. these two things make too much sense not to happen.
by the way, kakashi stays dead. someone important needs to die. shizune is too much of a secondary char to be impotant enough to be sufficient emotional sacrifice to connect the reader to the oblivion of most of the reader. someone the reader cares about needs to die to make that emotional connection.
the only way kakashi will come back is in a resurrection jutsu lik orochimaru used agaisnt the third.
so it has been said, so it shall be.
@Bari,Tinman, & SMP-
Danzou (aka Douchebag) thinks he has set the table so that when he crawls (like a cockroach) out of his catacombs, his ascendency to hokage is a fait accompli. I believe, he thinks that the village will accept him as its savior,or at minimum its only viable option. Even though the village is now a mound of rubble, Naruto has thrown a wrench into his plan. If Naruto beats pain or forces a retreat, Douche ends up with little or no rightful claim to leadership. I don’t think that he ever set this up so that he had to assasinate the Hokage. He assumed she would die in the attack or be so humiliated that the rest of the village would lose faith in her leadership. I don’t see him openly killing Tsunade, it would defeat the purpose his surrepticious coup-de-tat. On top of that, Tsunade is currently surrounded by Shinobe who will die to protect her, not the least of them being Sakura. Douche’s best hope is to arrive at the Sage/Pain battlefield and “help” defeat Pain. If that happens, then Tsunade’s position becomes tenuous, even if she lives. I think Naruto will go balls out to keep her Hokage if she lives. If she dies….
@glen07- I also thought that the “well done tsunade” bubble was Kishi inserting his thoughts. It’s posted in a earlier comment.
now that i think about it naruto may become hokage right now. everyone is watching him battel pain and they all know his tha only one that can stop them.pain smacked down the entire village tsunade,kakashi and all. i still think pain is a punk-biyoch 4 always hiding behind the 6 realms but my point is the village is on it’s @$$ right now and no one in konoha could do anything about it til naruto showed up.
i still dont think that pain is taking this seriously. remember konan said that pain’s bodies can recover themselves, also he can use any other corpse as a new pain body.
….sup ppl!
AAARGH! why the old Gravatar????
i think thats not refer to the rasengan or something, if you notice at the end of the message in the last part telling that what naruto techniqe will he use?.. as you notice it has a message of “melee” melee means o man to man combat or one on one fighting with each other, thats why naruto’s hads are in a sign of kagebunshin, so im guessing that it is a techniqe where naruto will release a 2 or 3 kagebunshin attack the remaining pains.
I think after using this new technique Naruto will throw pain bodies all over the place and when he thinks he’s done they’ll all rise up for the last round
How’s that….:)
Naruto won’t run out of sage mode power because he figured out all he needs is some clones to power it up.
His new technique will probably be a combination of rasensuiriken and sage art fire technique.
Tsunade will not die, she got old like this the last time she used all of her chakra during the fight with orochimaru and kabuto.
Kakashi…That’s a tough one, I think while sasuke might come into play there.
Madara will definatly come into this fight.
All pains will die, nagato will get away with konan somehow helping, as we havn’t seen her power yet.
um what else… Ahh yes Danzou..He and Madara will fight, danzou will die. Madara will take control of Root.
yep.
Hmm
About the danzou and Tsunade theory
im thinking that anbu that keeps sticking with tsunade is going to kill her,
like right after the pains in the ass are defeated
.. get it ;D
How can the village be destroyed when Yamato is still around? He could rebuild that joint with just the click of his fingers!
id love to see naruto become hokage and i can imagine it happening now buh tht wud kind of leave him stuck in the office. he may inherit the title but theres no way hes gonna be stiiin around doin paperwork just yet
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My thoughts: Tsunade will live, Kakashi and Shizune are dead, Danzo will attack the real Pain outside the village, Sasuke will be intercepted by team Samui, Madara is following the battle for Konoha through Zetsu, Naruto will own Pain (Naruto can’t get his new clothing dirty now can he) but Pain will retreat and fight another day.
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Now im offishal ;D
I guess the same thing will happen to Tsunade and Kakashi as when old Chiyo revived Gaara’s life with her’s in return.. Is this possible? What do you think?
The manga mentions that when Tsunade uses her Creation Rebirth technique she shortens her lifespan but doesn’t say by how much. That’s what the Anbu was talking about in 430 when he said ‘At this rate’ when he noticed she used it to save the citizens when Pain used his Shinra Tensei on Konoha. She’s already used that technique twice so far that we know of. So there is the chance that she can just die of old age because she used that Creation Rebirth technique too many times.
BTW, here’s a theory:
I think Kabuto is actually from Root ANBU. We all know that Kabuto is the son of a former Konoha medical ninja. Furthermore Kabuto has no feelings. Kabuto is in service of Orochimaru but we don’t really know why. Is it because, just like the bone dude, he’s devoted to Oro because Oro is the sole person that ever cared for him? I don’t think so. For Root ANBU putting a spy like Kabuto in Oro’s team would be a great asset.
I knowit’s far fetched and the likelihood for this theory to be true is low but I think it’s an interesting one.
@ Nighthawk00
What about Maaaiiiitttoooo Gaaaaiiiii!
What happened to konohamaru
he didnt have a slug did he ?
and he wasnt hiding in the mountains with the villagers ?
I doubt he nor my fav character Neji will contribute anything this time.
i meant
do you think he got blown up ?
nah….he was shown wid team gai heading for konoha….
@nighthawk- ROOT can’t be the reason for everything… people are using it way to much nowaday’s… plus Kabuto was an orphan from the time he was little wondering from village to village always as a spy of sorts and thus hlds loyalty to nobody… somehow he wqs under the command of Sasori (that has yet to be explained) and sasori sent him to be a spy under Oro when Oro left akatsuki… but Oro realized that kabuto was being infleunced by sasori’s jutsu and released him from it… and kabuto started following oro on his own free will. So the chances are very low that he’s from root and it would be interesting except people use root for almost anyhting these days, especially itachi, and i have no idea why they do that…
It’s the first time I use Root for any of my theories ^^
Anyway, here’s a possible WTF post:
let’s see if i get my new aatar this time…
NOOOOOO!
I really dont think Kabuto will play a major role in the future. He has no real power. And i dont see him actually becoming Oro that would be dumb. He could show up helping Naruto, Sasuke, or Akatsuki at some time but as for major antagonists hes no where near the top of the list.
@ Alec sasori had a control jutsu over kabuto
like he did on that guy from the sand village
he was under control
but orochimaru broke the jutsu
they said it when they was on the bridge
before naruto went 4 tails kyuubi
@fanboi – i really think that u’r mistaken there, it’s true that kabushimaro/orobuto won’t play a major role during this ARC, but i’m DAMN sure he’ll be doing smfin in the future…
What if Naruto’s new jutsu is two clones, one with a huge wind jutsu and the other with a giant Raengan. They combine it as they release and create the biggest rasenshurikien ever. That would be an awesomness jutsu.
I just keep going back and forth with this issue. Naruto’s power has definitely gone well over 9000. Not only does he stop the rhino’s charge at full gallop he spins and tosses the beast up into the stratosphere. The rhino is still airborne when Naruto double rasengans the bull and dog knocking them into the air.
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/431/10/
I laugh and think of the next time Sakura goes to wallop Naruto in the noggin and he just looks at her and smiles…. lol. Perhaps he will chance giving her a kiss now, heh!
@randomthought – but it would be BORING, i mean we need smfin new, not another shape/size mod on the rasengan, a thrown one would be sweet though
yah. what harshykage said. plus kabuto was a kinda strong ninja befor he ingested orochimaru.
@highkage- lol “Ingested”!
@harshytkage – i know right! lmao!
rite rite rite.
first of all bari i didnt comment on the hand lol i always look at pics carefully i have magnifying glasses and telescopes. its definitly sakura though.
second, everyones getting confused over whos gonna die and whos gonna survive. heres my theory and it seems to fit in.
tsunade will either die or become incapable of the hokage role, normaly the next in line would be kakashi. this was mentioned before jeriah left to go fight pain, wen talking to tsunade. but kakashi will be too injured and be in a coma due to over usage of chakra. he wont be dead.
this will leave the throne open to danzou. i dont think naruto will get it because hes still a genin and it would be too soon in the story. danzou will then go to the meeting with the kages who will all discuss the akatski problem. danzou being the war mongerer that he is will start another ninja war. madara will use fear and persuasion to win over some countries. not many countries will want to fight the biju.
i like the idea of a throwable resenshuriken, but the hint of melee combat makes me think itll be a combination of clones and sage mode to create some awesomme melee combo.
sakura has yet to actually surpass her sensei. both sasuke and naruto have. i dont think sakura is gonna become a combat sannin, i think shes gonna surpass tsunade in the way of heeling jutsus. before jeriah fought pain we had never even thought about some sort of sage mode. jeriah managed to go sage using frogs. now naruto has mastered it withput the use of frogs and is majorly powerful. perhaps sakura will learn a new jutsu in a similar way. remeber how tsunade has been using he chakra through the slugs to heel everyone when against pain, perhaps sakura will do the same thing but without the slugs.
It’s over 9000! THATS IMPOSSIBLE!
wouldnt u like to know: haha u are funny but i think u are right. and gd prediction.
there is to many stories about kakshi left to tell like rin and how he got mago whatever sharingan for him to die he also has never been showed going all out in a fight
what if naruto was a rabbit
what if madara was actually two face from batman
what if danzou liked rabbits
what if tsunade turned into a turnip called patricia
what if sasuke and naruto combined resengan and chidori to form a disco ball
what if god was one of us
what if kakashi was leornard nemoy
what if tobi was hitler
what if orochimaru/kabuto was actually itachi/roger moore
all this and more answered in the next episode of bleach!
and why does kakashi always save choji like the kakuza fight and now pain FUCK THAT FAT ASS CHOJI
@harshytkage: He is about at Kakashis level and he may inherit some of Oros power but still he isnt involved in any of the plots atm. Hes has no allys hes pretty much just out there on his own. If he ran into Naruto or Sasugay he would get pwned. But you could stil be right. I hope your right I like Kabuto. =)
BTW
Sorry about all the mistakes. Im using my iPhone xD
GOD! u guys are damn lucky to even have an Iphone, really, what i can afford makes me so embarrassed. isn’t there a contest or smfin i can win, i mean, i need an iphone coz evry1 has an iphone(i know i’m pathetic :p quesiton is:wha can you do about it???)
@Green thank you for repeating every thing i just said…
@alec i just scrolled up and read you comment
and i realised i read about half way through it
and rushed down to answer what i thought was a question ;D
sorry about that
ill read more carefully in the future
sorry for any mistakes in that
on an ipod touch ;D
did you remember the spoiler for 431
did you notice that there s alot of mistake in spoiler
looks like kishi is w8ing for the spoiler to be confirmed then he runs quickly to changes the real manga.
haler
he wants all spoiler to failed
to unpredict narutos future manga
hehehhe
Hey, isn’t Danzou a one eyed one handed old geezer?? I though the Hokage was supposed to be the strongest in the village. He freakkin uses a walking stick !!! How exactly is he better than anyone else? I’d pick Maiiiiiito Gaii b4 i pick him !! Yeaaaaaaaah,,, Bachikoooiiiii Babeeeey ! ;B
Jiravey (Frog guy) is live. Because at the he was drifiting in the ocean thinking about his new book, which will be Narutos name. Also his body was not found at all. Also when a frog dies his name appears in a book, jiravey (frog guy) name did not appear at all, even though he had a contracte with the frogs. So he is not dead
Sorry for wrong spellling in a hurry.
@lalala Actually… i think the name disappears from the books when a frog dies… And if tht were the case Pa frog wud have said somethin… But hey.. i was him to live to.. miss the ol perv :”(
hmm, just to remind everyone, even if naruto gets captured, they can’t do the extraction without killerbee. if they did, they’d lose everything according to kisame. But I doubt he’d lose to pein.
@ Harshy – it is pretty awesome…
^_^
-Sent from my iPhone-
@gideon the manga comes out in japan before the actual spoiler comes out…. it just needs to be properly translated
hello guyz i havent written for long time now but i watching over the posts at the site and the mangas…. so lets see i strongly believe That tsunade will die and kakashi will live… i am not saying that because i like kakashi and dislike tsunade or smthing i am saying that because,,Kishimoto is not writing for his mother’s soul but the naruto manga is his business.. so keep in your minds that kishi wants to keep his famous characters… Tsunade’s pick for hokage was a disaster imo because ,,think about it,, hokage must be the strongest ninja in the village but tsunade is a freaking healer.. its like (for those who play wow or linega) a holy priest fights with a rigue or a hunter… Medical ninjas are not suposed to be hokages…YEs they are very usefull but they are HEALERS NOT FIGHTERS.. Also that “well done tsunade” was said by kishi not a character and i believe that he said that to 1st farewell tsunade in a heroic manner and 2nd to raise the opinion about tsunade to the readers smthink like “U where great but its your time”… So with tsunade out of te picture who is left to be the Next hokage???.. Naruto??? NO WAY TOO FREAKING EARLY.. Danzou??? not by a chance)*** .. Exept kakashi i cannot think of another Jounin thatcan feel this place.. maybe shikamarus dad but still he is not that powerfull.. kakashi will live in order for him to be hokage… (i am not talking about kakashi determination to live etc etc -thats bullshit- but that if kakashi dies kishi has no other char to be hokage).. and plz stop that though about tsunade giving her life for kakashi… Thats not gonna happen.. it was so freaking fake the first time for the salvation of gaara its not gonna hapen twice.. Thats about kakashi and tsunade….Also jeremiah is wright we are about for a time skip and maybe after the naruto pain fight.. U see pain its not just a man… he is a leader of a country… so to kill pain u need to fight an entire country and maybe its allys.. TIME SKIP IS PERFECT that period.. check it out.. U see the point of the series is naruto to be hokage.. Now naruto is strong he can fight many good shinobi’s but he has not the other skills to be a hokage(diplomacy etc etc)… through the time skip naruto becomes jounin maybe having some sex with hinata and then konoha moves against pain and rain village with their allys sand village(gaara get into the picture-many more readers for kishi) also the lighting country with the raikage(thats where killerbee comes in and teaches naruto to control kyuuby)… sry for the long post guyz but i had to say what i had to say^^
@ punxed: lol i play WoW. Naruto = Mage (why can make clones)
Sasugay = Rogue (Fast and Fucking Gay)
My nerd level just went over 9000 xD
@ punxed: lol i play WoW. Naruto = Mage (can make clones)
Sasugay = Rogue (Fast and Fucking Gay)
My nerd level just went over 9000 xD
@うちは Fanboi naruto a mage??? wtf?? NARUTO IS WARRIOR:P
@punxed, you’re funny, (maybe have some sex with Hinata)
@伝説kingcam07 dont lough m8..eventually this will happen..:P kishi must blend with fights the sexual life of his characters… Can u imagine naruto kicking pains ass and being a virgin??? WTF:P
iruka made kiddy porn with naruto and hinata but naruto forgot… thats why hinata is so shy she remembers…. so technically he is not a virgin
regarding what punxed said…
i dont want another time skip, i dont want to “not” see how naruto learns diplomacy and etc. etc. i mean whats the fun in that? seriously, kishi could have written so much on the things that happened in the last time skip. naruto’s kinda getting too serious. its still good, but its not the same…
if he time skips like this naruto will be over in no time. and the worst thing with anime is when its over.
i’d like a time skip..
Well, I really enjoyed this chapter. It was pretty was ridiculous. Naruto has to have some limit on his sage mode. It’s the way Kishi writes. All ultimate powers have some backlash. This fight won’t be as easy as it’s appeared so far.
@jeremiah and his regular Swayze and Captain planet fans – I made this picture like 5 years ago in Photoshop. I couldn’t believe when I found this blog how similar your jokes were with those of my friends and I.
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e357/handicrapable/earthafr.jpg?t=1232342644
well…after banging my head on the wall due to the continous taunt by one apple product after the other, i was finally able to sit down and write smfin,
so he’s not a virgin
for the wow dudes, who fits the char of a druid?
Naruto may hve been raped by that filler char gama riki
(Take that! i managed to type that on my 160X128 res, 1.5 Inch Nokia 3500C though i could barely see the comment box(i dont even know how the hell i found the “submit comment” button and now my fingers are cramped)
@handicapable- if what you say is true then quick! try to do smfin , u may have inherited the spirit of the swayze and it was giving u premonitions! Hurry, maybe u could even do the legendary Swayzeingan!
and as to the power “limit”(laughs at the word), there’s one word that smashes all those theories “Dragonball/Z/GT”:)
Hmmm…so basically Naruto could develop a new technique that would destroy galaxies.. !?
@ Handicapable – LMAO! So freakin awesome!
@handicapable its limit is he cant stay in sage mode forever and he cant gather more energy while moving…. i think thats why it seems like naruto is kind of conserving his movement, it seems to me like hes staying still as much as possible and really only moves for killing blows, im sure the more he moves around the sage mode will start to weaken………….
also this leaves room for other characters to become stronger
if you look at it in two moves he takes out laser head and all of the summons along with preta pain… he makes those giant rasengans on his way to preta pain so i am counting it as one rediculousely fantastic move haha
@renzy10 – i dont think sage mode has anything to do with how much you move around, you see, it is more of a “15 min constant power up thingy”. i believe that once you’ve entered sage mode you continously gather natural energy but the trick is to balance it such that you dont go toad face
Sure he could, but he wont use it because he’s the good guy until some buu like villain comes along….:p
i think this fight will last long..
it’s like jiraiya fought with pain..
Everyone seems to be overlooking the fact naruto has figured out how to gather sage energy whilst in sage mode.
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/427/05/
I think Pain will reveal that he actually has 10 bodies. Wouldn’t that screw with everyone six paths of pain. His other four bodies show up, and they are even more powerful than the six. Like the second tier of Nagato’s powers. (Like the higher realms of Buddhism)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_spiritual_realms
Each of the Ten Worlds possesses all Ten Worlds
Concerning Danzo:
Considering the fact that Kishimoto Masashi really likes to base Naruto around Japanese legends (the sannine, pein, hanzo). Take a look at this page and look for the section about Kato Danzo.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kato_Danzo
Now, if you didn’t notice. It shows that Danzo is in fact Tobi. If you haven’t heard this theory before then I just made you wide-eyed. Forget about the Obito crap. Danzo is Tobi. Danzo is a master of illusions afterall. Tobi would be the ultimate illusion. Here’s a question: Why does Danzo hide his right eye under bandages? Is it because he has a sharingan or is it because he’s had a head wound that hasn’t healed for 40+ chapters.
*Whoops. This is the right link for the Danzo = Tobi theory
http://www2.kanawa.com/japan/figure7.html#yukimura
i h8 it when everyone leaves and i’m left witing for someone to post something….(*lonely*)
i am here m8:PPP
hey punxed….but there’s still an eerie silence welling up inside me…like a supernova about to eradicate all hopes of existence in the futile wait for comments…WTF??? who the hell are you and what are doing logged in as my username!
Sry for the poetic bullSH*t guys.
That was a good one after shonen jump declares a holy shit holiday…
my theory is somehow naruto getting the sage chakra is related to the big scroll he’s carrying on his back. it could even be the scroll is one of his bunshin, or some sort of transport that channels sage chakra to him.
tsunade wont die because naruto is not ready to be the hokage yet. it would be a tough choice for someone else to be hokage as well. i reckon tsunade will stay until naruto is ready to be hokage.
@SS – I outrightly deny the your scroll theory :p, and there’s someone to take over from tsunade. Who? u aask? MMMAAAAAAAIIIIITTTOOOOOO GGGAAAAIIIIII! (IF kakshi is dead)
danzou> would definitely take advantage of the situation tsunade is in right now, but he has bigproblem with regards to his ohh sooo brrilliant plan and that is NARUTO, remember? that’s why he killed the messenger frog so that NAruto won’t be able to interfere.. but NARUTO is back..
PAIn> he will not go down without a hELL of A fight HE might be like LEONIDAS.. ARU ARU.. what bugs my mind at this point is that,what happened to the REal NAGATO?..
KAkashi> Kakashi GAiden will resume on January 31st.. so a flashback of his old days.. a very fitting eulogy indeed..
TEAM 7> i hope a powered up sakura plus a sasuke with a more stable MS plus NAruto will be reunited and kill MADARA once and for ALL!!!!!!!!!
woooaahhhh!!!!!!!!
are they really making another kakashi gaiden cause if so i will piss in my pants
one thing is for sure “the scroll” naruto is carrying is nothing but a kage bushin. He shocked when the old frog said about looking about two sides because that is similar to what he said to kakashi.
result “kage bushin”.
Aslo remember kage bushin is naruto’s trademark…
the scroll is the scroll jeriah used to carry on his back, its just a mark of being a sage. its the scroll with all the signatures of toad summoners.
it wont be a kage bushin because that would seem like a cop out by kishi. like last minute he thoght “sod it the scroll is narutos clone. there thats that chapter done.” lol
iv said this a thousand times, narutos sage mode will wear off cause they all said it temporary. then well have a while of pain taking advantage and the toads doubting naruto. then naruto will use clone to go into sage mode last minute suprising everyone. even though theyve seen him use clones for everythng before. lol
The next Hokage:
Here is how I think the Hierarchy of Konoho is.
1.at the moment it is Tsunade
a) I put the Elders here just because of their wisdom. They are not able to become the hokage but will be the deciding vote on who does.
2.Danzo – why hmmm, he is in charge of Root for one. He also could be considered one of the strongest in the village if only because he fought and lost to the Third in an earlier bid for Hokage. Remember that the Third was a genius and very strong.
Just what are Danzo’s powers? What can a one armed one eyed ninja do?
3.Kakashi – and only because we are still not privy to whether or not he is deceased. I consider him one of if not the strongest in the village. He would be the most likely to become Hokage because Tsunade would support him and therefore so would the Elders.
If Tsunade dies here without announcing a successor then it could throw the politics into turmoil. If the Elders are still alive they would have the say on this. If they are both dead then look for a coup or two. I think they live so this means with Kakashi in a comma or long term injury or dead then Danzo would get the support of the Elders and become Hokage. The only person who could argue here would be Naruto but I think he said somewhere that he can’t become Hokage until he saves his friend Sausgay.
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/307/17/
I don’t see any reason why people keep saying that Naruto is going to beat pain any time soon. He will kill all 6 bodies or at least enough of them to make pain retreat temporarily. This is not the final battle with pain by any means. Besides Naruto has to run out of Natural energy in the middle of the battle and show us how he managed to get around the fact he can not combine with Poppa frog to get more natural energy.
Chiyo is the only one who knew the Jutsu to bring back Garaa and it was a forbidden jutsu anyway so I can not see Tsunade using it. What would people say if the Hokage used a forbidden jutsu? Therefore Tsunade is not going to die yet either. Her getting old doesn’t mean anything other then she used up most of her chakra.
Kakashi is going to live otherwise they would have shown him actually die tragically and have a long drawn out ending like Jman and Asuma. We will find out more about his talk with his father by the campfire in flashbacks or the anime since the Manga always leaves details out.
I don’t see any reason for a time skip either. He is old enough now to be hokage if Tsunade “did” die and Kakashi wouldn’t be the Hokage anyway he is like Jman not the right kind of person for the job. Although even if they did offer it to Naruto he wouldn’t accept it until he finishes his Sauske search for better or worse.
I also don’t think Sauske will show up until Pain is gone or the village is rebuilt. On top of all this I believe Sauske is and always has been good and never went bad in the first place. The fight with Naruto when he got his headband scratched was a fight between friends. How many times have you broken your friends nose or any bone for that matter and you were just mad at them not trying to take over the world? He was just really pissed that he was weaker then Naruto and when he finally got power he over did it.
@wouldn’t u like to know – I like your theory about the scroll being one of Naruto’s clones. That would make perfect sense to have the scroll be one of his clones that is gathering the natural energy for him while he is fighting! I am currently watching the entire series from the beginning again and was just thinking why doesn’t he turn his clones into shurikens like he did when saving the little boy and his mom from the two samuris on the dock? or the even more famous right when He turns into the giant shuriken that Sauske throws at Tenzu. That is something he should definitely do more often.
I was wondering how he would be able to keep one of his clones out of the battle after being summoned right into the middle of it but if he did transform his clone into the scroll that would solve that issue.
i was just wonderin why didnt danzo try to take over after the 3rd died i mean it would have been the perfect timing and i bet he was stronger then because he was younger
i really believe the scrollbunshin theory is wrong, else, here’s the reason, PAIN has the rinnegan, the most powerful of all eye jutsus. This would prob allow pain to see chakra in a specific way(like colour for the sharingan and currents for the byakugan). Now i am pretty sure that if it was a bunshin pain would’ve noticed why a seemingly normal scroll would be gathering stupendous amounts of chakra and would’ve reacted by now.further Naruto(or if not him, the toads) aren’t stupid enough to not consider that, i mean, if that’s it then why transform it at all and bring it along, he could’ve left the clone at “myo-bkahblah mountain” and released it whenever he liked, hence, the scrollbunshin would be a horrendous mistake for naruto to hve made, hence it’s false
@ anti_nagato_syndicate-
Why would Kishi insert another Kakashi Gaiden at this point in his story line? The first Gaiden served as an interlude between the original story line and the time skip story line. Inserting a Gaiden right in the middle of this battle would annoying as hell. I hope your not right… at least about the timing.
MADARA is Danzo…Just think about – go back do side by side illustration comparison. Is he really cripple. How does know that Pain was leading the attack when the elders confronted Tsunade.
What’s going to happen Naruto will win the Fight against Pain. Then Danzo would appear in front of Naruto with his ROOT squad, there there Naruto tell Dnazo to back off when he doesn’t the Root squad would surround Naruto. Right there his comrades and Villagers would surround the Root Squad for a Civil Battle. It just a few thoughts but that can a scenario.
I enough reading all the comments and I really enough the THIS CHAPTER..the next one is going to be good.
Whew! my account broke and i had to make a new one (note the 1 instead of the L) and in the few short weeks since i’ve been gone a Helluva lot has happened!
So i’ll perform my usual ritual of coming in after everyone else has thrown in their two cents, and then dropping a fifty dollar bill of counter-arguments against every comment i can be bothered to read.
Firstly: “Yeah!!! i got second place! i use that line all the time and only now does it get the recognition it deserves!”
Secondly: Kakashi. Isn’t. Dead. There are many reasons for this, not least because he is too awesome, but there are multiple GROUPS of reasons why.
First we have the reasons Kishi wouldn’t want to:
He is one of the most popular, if not the most popular character. Everyone has them in their top ten, most people he is in their top five, and to prove this point to a friend of mine, i did a survey on another site, and out of 57 people, Kakashi was in their top three 23 Times!!! that’s 40%!!!
Also i don’t think Kishi would kill off so many major characters to the one enemy. the J Man is already down, and Tsunade may be on the ropes, if she goes, then there’s no WAY Kishi would Kill Kakashi as well.
There’s the evidence in the Manga:
Kakashi i suffering Mainly from Chakra exhaustion, and a clone of Katsuyu filled with Tsunade’s chakra enveloped him, and unless Katsuyu is the biggest retard of a summon ever to be summoned, she will realise that all he needs is some chakra for a jumpstart.
And the Final Reason:
His Mangekyou Is Activated Still. I saw this back when all we had was the bad scans of 430, but if you looked close enough you could see quite clearly the shape of his Mangekyou while he was on the ground. This may not be conclusive proof that he’s alive, but think about it, he expends huge amounts of chakra keeping it activated, so when he falls into a coma, why would it remain that way? surely it would switch off at some point. Unless he was still alive!!!
Another possibility which was brought to my attention, whiuch is a long shot, is that it may have been stuck in the ON position, continually draining Kakashi of his chakra and rendering him unable to fight indefinately, or until it is removed from him. I’d say that both of those fit into Kishi’s description of ‘Dark Blue’ being alive, but unable to fight as a ninja anymore.
Thirdly: Another thing i noticed was the picture of Yoruichi in the banner, this is a good thing as i finished watching and reading the Bleach anime and Manga about three hours ago, and decided to see how you guys were doing without me. Pretty well, it turns out.
Fourthly: Ip Man looks like Awesomness, i can’t wait to watch a fully subbed version.
Fifthly: I greatly enjoyed Ibi’s post about Sakura, as many of my friends thing she can “EAT S#1T AND DIE!!!” becuase they are typical teenage boys who think that anything with boobs smaller than a 200lb tumor sucks. I however, am a more mature teenage boy, and think that Sakura, with her new powers, Totally Rocks!!!
Sixthly: Naruto is Awesomness!!! he can beat Pein, i really want to believe that, but the more i think, the more i realise that it’s probably not gonna happen. I don’t think he Killed preta Pein, becuase all Nagato has to do is send more chakra to it, and even if the bones don’t work anymore, he can still move it. remember, they’re corpses to begin with. The only way to beat him is to destroy the chakra recievers, the huge @SS radio tower transmitting them, or disrupt the chakra signals in mid air. Naruto has done none of these so far. BUT!!!
When Naruto uses Fuuton Rasen Shuriken, the tiny needles will damage the Pein bodies abilities to mould and channel chakra, if he damages the chakra recievers with it, then they won’t be able to communicate, and will all slump dead in a heap. This is what i believe will happen, and then Yahiko Pein will absorb all of their powers into him once again and we will be set for an Awesomness 1-on-1 battle. Yahiko vs Naruto.
Seventhly: Oh Yeah. And then there’ll be a timeskip.
I Hereby Patent All Above Claims, Which Have Not Already Been Presented To This Forum. No Copiers!!! If You’ve Suggested A Theory Before Me, That’s Fine. But No One Is Allowed To Claim That It Is Thier Theory After Just Reading It Here. Or They Will Die.
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I also thinks that there are 10 relams 6 lower & 4 higher
@ Passing – check out the 3 RULES OF MANGA post when you get the chance.
@ Elasticatedninja – LMAO! Great Comment. Hope you get your account fixed.
irstly: “Yeah!!! i got second place! i use that line all the time and only now does it get the recognition it deserves!”
Secondly: Kakashi. Isn’t. Dead. There are many reasons for this, not least because he is too awesome, but there are multiple GROUPS of reasons why.
First we have the reasons Kishi wouldn’t want to:
He is one of the most popular, if not the most popular character. Everyone has them in their top ten, most people he is in their top five, and to prove this point to a friend of mine, i did a survey on another site, and out of 57 people, Kakashi was in their top three 23 Times!!! that’s 40%!!!
Also i don’t think Kishi would kill off so many major characters to the one enemy. the J Man is already down, and Tsunade may be on the ropes, if she goes, then there’s no WAY Kishi would Kill Kakashi as well.
There’s the evidence in the Manga:
Kakashi i suffering Mainly from Chakra exhaustion, and a clone of Katsuyu filled with Tsunade’s chakra enveloped him, and unless Katsuyu is the biggest retard of a summon ever to be summoned, she will realise that all he needs is some chakra for a jumpstart.
And the Final Reason:
His Mangekyou Is Activated Still. I saw this back when all we had was the bad scans of 430, but if you looked close enough you could see quite clearly the shape of his Mangekyou while he was on the ground. This may not be conclusive proof that he’s alive, but think about it, he expends huge amounts of chakra keeping it activated, so when he falls into a coma, why would it remain that way? surely it would switch off at some point. Unless he was still alive!!!
Another possibility which was brought to my attention, whiuch is a long shot, is that it may have been stuck in the ON position, continually draining Kakashi of his chakra and rendering him unable to fight indefinately, or until it is removed from him. I’d say that both of those fit into Kishi’s description of ‘Dark Blue’ being alive, but unable to fight as a ninja anymore.
Thirdly: Another thing i noticed was the picture of Yoruichi in the banner, this is a good thing as i finished watching and reading the Bleach anime and Manga about three hours ago, and decided to see how you guys were doing without me. Pretty well, it turns out.
Fourthly: Ip Man looks like Awesomness, i can’t wait to watch a fully subbed version.
Fifthly: I greatly enjoyed Ibi’s post about Sakura, as many of my friends thing she can “EAT S#1T AND DIE!!!” becuase they are typical teenage boys who think that anything with boobs smaller than a 200lb tumor sucks. I however, am a more mature teenage boy, and think that Sakura, with her new powers, Totally Rocks!!!
Sixthly: Naruto is Awesomness!!! he can beat Pein, i really want to believe that, but the more i think, the more i realise that it’s probably not gonna happen. I don’t think he Killed preta Pein, becuase all Nagato has to do is send more chakra to it, and even if the bones don’t work anymore, he can still move it. remember, they’re corpses to begin with. The only way to beat him is to destroy the chakra recievers, the huge @SS radio tower transmitting them, or disrupt the chakra signals in mid air. Naruto has done none of these so far. BUT!!!
When Naruto uses Fuuton Rasen Shuriken, the tiny needles will damage the Pein bodies abilities to mould and channel chakra, if he damages the chakra recievers with it, then they won’t be able to communicate, and will all slump dead in a heap. This is what i believe will happen, and then Yahiko Pein will absorb all of their powers into him once again and we will be set for an Awesomness 1-on-1 battle. Yahiko vs Naruto.
Seventhly: Oh Yeah. And then there’ll be a timeskip.
Hereby Patent All Above Claims, Which Have Not Already Been Presented To This Forum. No Copiers!!! If You’ve Suggested A Theory Before Me, That’s Fine. But No One Is Allowed To Claim That It Is Thier Theory After Just Reading It Here. Or They Will Die(this means you elast1catedninja.)
yay! my new avatar is finally here(abt time, been a 2 whole days!)
@harshytkage – I agree that he could have left one of his Kaga Bushins back at the frogs home to gain natural energy but that would lose the effect of him running out of Natural energy and then being like… Oh Wait… Just kidding and having the scrollbushin disapear turning him back into sage mode.
The other thing is I don’t believe that Pain can see the Natural energy being absorbed or around naruto at all. The only people/Beings able to see the natural energy would be a Sage or the toads that get summoned. Naruto can see regular chakra as well as Kyubii chakra (We see this in the sora anime story line), but he couldn’t see Natural energy yet. Not until he is able to absorb it himself and Pain does not have that ability.
@BJBth1 – he doesnt have to see the natural energy, if he can see the normal chakra system of the clone then the clones done for…AKA KAPOW!
Great issue guys definately great more things to come.
why do people keep agreeing and disagreeing with things i never said.
@bari: i didnt say that was sakuras hand before. i did later on but not before u said i was wrong lol
@BJBthe?: i never said naruto was using the scroll as a bushin, i even disagreed with it.
the scroll is just a mark of the sage, you might as well say his cape is a bushin. jeriah was in charge of the toad contract scroll and now that naruto is a sage it has been passed down to him.
@harshikage and elast1catedninja: get a life seriously, ur not gonna get any credit for being the first to come up with a theory so why the hell make up a gay little patent. or do u think kishsi gonna give an award to the person who guesses the ending first lol
I just read some of the spoilers (a couple) at onemanga.com and I found them quite interesting, especially the second one. THe first one was an obvious fake, but the second one seemed more realistic. but mhm. HOpefully, naruto isn’t going to use that jutsu jiraya told him not to use.
@wouldn’t u like to know – WTF are u a retard? if u didn’t get the joke then ii won’t waste my time replying to you anymore….
@wouldn’t u like to know – I know that you disagreed with the scroll if you re read what I said I was saying that I disagree that Pain can see natural energy so “IF” the scroll was a bushin which is a possibiliy then Pain wouldn’t see the natural energy.
That and you need to calm down and lay off of Harsykage. This isn’t a pissing match just a place to talk about what’s on our minds in regards to Naruto and soon Bleach (Can’t Wait!!!)
Naruto can’t defeat pain yet because if he did then Akatsuki would be disbanded and what was the point of all of those other members? If there is a time skip then it can’t happen until after Akatsuki is destroyed which should take a long time.
naruto manga 432 spoiler:
Naruto produces an extravgant amount of shadow clones. The clones surrond the entire area)
“Mass Shadow Clone jutsu. My new technique should take them out in one sweep. These clones should buy me some time,” said Naruto.
(Naruto grabs his wrist and places his arm up in the air)
“The sheer volume of chakra among the clones is staggering,” said Human Realm. “Truly its the power of the 9 Tails. But its alright now. My chakra has recovered,” said God Realm.
“Mass shadow clones. What is that boy planning,” asked Shima. “Who knows? But can’t you feel the natural energy surronding the real one,” asked Fukasku. (Close up on Naruto shows huge arrays of natural energy gathering around him) “Whatever it is. I don’ think it will be safe here any longer,” said Shima.
“He must be planning something,” said Hell realm. (Hell realm revives Hungry Ghost Realm) “Animal Beast will use summonings to protect realms. I’ll move forward, while the rest stay back until I give the go ahead,” said God Realm. (Animal Beast realm summons Chimera lizard that turns invisible. Animal Beast realm also summons a defensive summoning. Animal Beast and Ghost Realm hides in the lizard, the others hide behind the panda)
(shadow clone notices Hungry Ghost) “So it seems one of them is capable of using a
regenerative techinque to bring them back to life,” said Shadow Clone. “Like it really matters. My new technique will kill them all anyway,” said another shadow clone. “So they can vanish, with that type of summon,”asked shadow clone.
(Fuuton: Rasengan forms in Naruto’s hand)
“Damn it. The chakra control is too great, even for Sage Mode. Its because I have so many clones. I’ve never practiced with this many before. I still need more time,” said Naruto.
(The ground starts shaking)
“What’s that jutsu. What ever it is, I have to stop it now,” said God Realm. (God Realm rushes in the fray head first.) “Now. Don’t let him near my jutsu,” yelled Naruto. (The Shadow Clones all Surrond Pain.)
(About three shadow clones grab a shadow clone from the right and the left and uses Henge to transform them into Huge Shuriken. Three shadow clones tosses six huge Shuriken toward Pain with extreme speeds. As they reach his location. They poof into shadow clones. God Realm stopped in his tracks)
“Not bad,” said God Realm. (They prepare to unleash massive punishment until God Realm uses his technique to blow them away)
“What’s going on,” asked Naruto. “That is another power of Pain. He can deflect and repel any ninjutsu, as well as phyiscal attacks,” said Katsuyu. “I was sure that attack was going to work,” said Naruto. “The jutsu is getting more deadlier,” said God Realm. (Naruto holds (regular) Oodama Rasengan while its influenced by the wind element. It looks like Rasen Shuriken, except the Rasengan is bigger)
(God Realm continues pushing on. The Shadow Clones surronds Pain in a circle. Cutting him off.)
“All Direction Shuriken,” yells Naruto. (The Shadow Clone launches a huge volume of shuriken toward Pain. “Shinra Tensei,” said Pain. (A the shadow clones surronding Pain the closest are destroyed. Pain sores in the Air. He is then followed by a barrage of Exploding Tags with Kunai attached. A Huge Explosion in the sky appears)
(In the smoke)
“I can use a smaller version to stop the jutsu,” said God Realm (He pops out the smoke and sees a sight giving him even shivers. An Ultimate Rasengan Infused with Wind Element. The stems from the jutsu stretches about 15 feet from all ends. The Ground starts to crack. People in Konoha feels a small quake)
“Shima are you seeing this,” asked Fukasku. “He’s not serious about activating that thing,” said Shima. “We’ve got to get out of here. Warn the Buna,” said Fukasku. (Before they leave. Naruto’s shadow clone stops them). “BOy what the heck are you planin,” asked Fukasku. “Are you mad, trying to take us with you,” asked Shima. “Don’t worry. I’ve been practicing,” said Naruto. “Wait, all the techniques we’ve taught you and I don’t remember this one,” said Fukasku.
“I have Kakashi sensei to thank for this one,” said Naruto. (The shadow clone poof)
(All the Shadow clones vanish) “I need as much control as possible,” said Naruto. “NOW,” yelled Pain. (A invisible suspect appears to strike Naruto from behind. However Shima uses her tongue to bind the lizard down. She slams it to the ground. Followed by that attack, Gamabunta’s blade comes rushing down.)
“They saw through it,” yelled Pain. (Close on Animal Beast and Hungry Ghost shows them
defeated, blood spewing from their mouth)
“That’s another one grandma,” said Gamabunta
“I can’t risk using the technique again. If I do. The bodies won’t recover. Looks like I’ll have no choice. His jutsu must not ge through,” said God Realm.
(Close up on Naruto)
“Sage Tech: Fuuton: Oodama Rasen Tendrils,” yelled Naruto.
(A quick flash of Konan’s face)
“Nagato, don’t,” said Konan.
Next Chapter: The Clash
guys trust i have predicted it right and this is what is going to happen in manga 432
@harshytkage- I’m still seeing your old avatar
Just don’t change the humor with the avatar.
ROTFLMAO at your copy post.
hmm i dont think that spoilers true
naruto will continue owning
probably smack down another pain
then his sage mode will either dissapear
or it wont and fukasaku will explain how hes lasting so long.
like he did with the natural energy smushing that guys face in ;D
hm very nice,, i was just wonderign what were the powers the uchiha itachi gave to uzamaki naruto.. and also i would like to remnd everyonme guy sensais team is coming back to teh village so i think that pain is gonna get owned, andd then nagato actually realizing the true power of naruto is going to bring the rest of akatsuki and sasukes team
still old oone?…
dunno, istarted gettin this one a couple of hours ago, which is still a day aff from when i uploaded…
@ bari – I have to say that sounds like a fun next episode but there is too much wrong with it. 1) you don’t see God realm talking about what his next move is to the other realms unless Konan is there. Why? Because that would be like talking to yourself. They are all the same person so when one knows the plan they all do. 2) Kakashi hasn’t taught him any new techniques that have been hinted at, the only technique we have any hints to is the one that Jman told him never to use in this manga http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/251/14/. It’s been a long time coming so I’m excited to see what Jman taught him that he can only handle in Sage mode. 3)Katsuyu would warn him about god realm the second God realm started to move not after Naruto is already starting to fight him because then the information would be too late. Not a bad theory though.
I’m thinking that the new Jutsu has to do with Water and Air combined hence the “Waves of Rage” but it will be called something much cooler…. I hope.
@ harshy your little picture atm is erm gaara ?
yes, thats the new avatr, i guess everyone has to delete their browser cache to get the updated pics…thnx for the heads up Green
sorry harshikage only skim read posts so didnt notice that ur post was a copy of elast1cated ninja lol im glad someone else hates things like patents on theorys.
oh was the retard comment necessary, it made my eyes rain
lets not our knickers in a twist lol
@UcHiHa MaDaRa – Do you think that Gai sensais team will run into Konan and Nagato on there way to the village? I mean Nenji would be able to see them no problem on their way back using his byukagen (sorry probably wrong spelling), and then they could go after Nagato causing him to run from Kanoha in order to keep his real body safe. I can’t see him controlling the pain bodies that are left and fighting Gai at the same time without having difficulty. Even if Konan is there she wont be much help against Gais team.
@wouldn’t u like to know – hey….no offence meant, sumtimes i get a bit annoyed when i’m already annoyed by some annoying thing. :p,ussually i add the friendly teasing smiley but i forgot that time.(amazing what difference a single smiley can make in the mood of a comment) anyways i dont take any shit and in return dont give any shit…Peace bro!
lmao that spoiler is just another prediction, i saw that same “spoiler” on a forum like last friday, so i couldn’t be a real spoiler
Does anyone know where that loser Sai has been hiding?
that is not reall spoiler thats just my prediction so i wrote it on the other site too. eheeehehey lol
my prediction about itachi`s power is that we wont see it yet, untill naruto fights against madara or sasuke
hey green u forgot how powerfull pain is. god realm is not fighting cause after a while it takes him a while to regenerate his powers. go to this link and read it next to pain`s image
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/431/01/
didnt u see how easy pain defeated everyone. sorry to say this but after a while when pain regenerates his powers he might kick naruto`s ass and sasuke might come or danzou might interfere cause remember that danzou doesnt want pain to capture naruto.
danzou would more likely kill naruto to prevent pain from taking him then helping…thats just how he is.
Hmm… if Naruto can sense everyone’s chakra.. can he sense danzo and the root douchebags hiding underground n not doin sh1t to help the village? although i admit he’s a bit busy right now..
There will be another time skip in April. meaning naruto is going to train to get stronger. So no manga in April also naurto will be back in may 10x stronger.
Go to shonen jump.
Sorry for spelling and grammar
Also donzo is tobi. You can tell. how? Both tobi and danzo cover thier left eye. Both have same hair style also same height.
Same height no madara is like 4times taller than itachi being sarcastic but danzou isn’t that tall besides considering what pein is doing to konoha by himself madara could have easily taken over with root since pein is on lock down by madara
@jonroy not true. If danzo is what he’s come off as, he would want to keep naruto safe so he can have an “ultimate weapon.”
@bari, interesting theory, but personally don’t see it happening. Naruto’s never gonna give up, and i don’t think there’s been a fight where someone saves him AND finishes it for him.
wow, everyone is putting some much faith on Gai’s team. Hmm, did everyone forget that jiraya and kakashi lost to Pain (unfair match in both cases), but I doubt that Gai’s team will make a big difference if majority of the village couldn’t defeat Pain. Naruto is their only hope.
And why do people still refer Tobi as Tobi. He’s Madara Uchiha, he even said it himself. We don’t know if he kept the same body or anything, but the fact is that he’s Madara. I seriously doubt that Madara = Danzou. I do admit, they have similar traits, but I still doubt they are the same.
@rasenblaze: i was thinking the same thing but for nagato, i mean of he could tell that kakashi was injured then surely he could spot some unrecognized chakra hiding in a bush somewhere. remeber shizune said he was somewhere nearby before she was killed. and he should definitly sense danzo in his little bunker under the village.
The two giant rasengan have got to be hinting at Naruto’s sexual frustration. In a sense, Sakura has given him blue balls of epic proportions.
Im just wonder if Naruto really can take his dad one attributes like in kakashi gaiden, in the face of enemy he becomes a cold blood killer in an instant. I cant stand Naruto becoming one sick ass ninja wo having that. What i want to happen in here during the fight with pain, if pain begs for his life in the end, Naruto still going to kill him wo mercy.
Any thoughts about my post?
Thats what I hate about Naruto, in the midst of a battle, he becomes soft to his foes. Completely different to kakashi, jiraiya and minato ideals when theyre in midst of a battle, they become completely different person to their daily live. we can see this as shown in Jiraiya vs Pain, Jiraiya has a completely intention killing Pain. remember the scene where jiraiya had his kunai blades out and they shown two bodies of pain dead (we can infer he use his kunai to struck their heart to make sure their dead.
Im just saying if naruto cant have that softhearts in the midst of battle because thats where they goin to exploit his weakness and might result to his downfall as this manga develop further. if weve seen a epiphany through naruto fightings, we should see a changes in ideals of fight that killing a foe is merely normal through battles and softheart ninja is a only sign of a failure ninja.
im having gut feeling theyll be another gaara situation between naruto and pain. ihope not or else it will a shitty storyline if that happens. theres no reason for forgiveness left that naruto can give for pain: he killed jiraiya and had killed innocent lives including civilians in konoha when he use his a-bomb jutsu.
i expect completely different ending of their fight… like before pain dies, naruto tries to listen to why pain have join akats and whats all about this BS emo pain drama that he went through… then suddenly naruto SNAP HIS LIFE in an instant wo hearing the rest of his story because vengeance clouded naruto minds and thats what a emo deserve.
hello guyz gud morning..
i cannot go to sleep because of NARUTo…
how will this face off end?..
i have never seen naruto thus confident and powerful..
but the question is?..
is it enuf?..
to beat the hell out of PAIns pretty rinnegan ASS!!!!
@ of813 – lmao! It would be hilarious if in the anime they colored those two blue!
^_^
@Kaizer-
One of Naruto’s greatest attributes is his ability to make allies out of enemies. He seems to have a positive impact on virtually everyone who is around him. Gaara and The Sand are allies of The Leaf solely because of Naruto’s “gift”. Additionally, during Naruto and Gaara’s battle after the Chuunin Exams, They fought bitterly. At the end of the battle, though he could only crawl, Naruto says to Gaara, “I will stop you.” Sasugay is the one who stops Naruto from continuing towards Gaara.
Further, Tsunade would not be Hokage if it weren’t for Naruto’s influence on her. During the Three Sannin battle, Naruto never went soft, he got pwnd by Kabuto (after pwning Kabuto with his new Rasengan), prompting Tsunade to finally enter the fray with bad intent.
In the end, Naruto’s “softness”, as you put it, usually has a positive outcome for the village.
waves of rage is rasengan cobiined with water element to make a wirlpool like move
@ lalala – Danzou covers his right eye and Tobi/Mandara covers his left eye. They do not have the same eye covered. Also I’m not sure where I posted the 2 pictures from the manga but if you look at Mandara’s brother from way back when and you look at Danzo now you can see that they both have the X on their chin and the same lines around their eyes. My belief is that Mandara and Danzou are brothers and they each tried to take the others eyes or agreed to it. Anyway that is why they both have the oposite and only one eye.
it is my oppinion narutos new attack is a large wind syth type attack…..to make another rasengan would be boring…..plus if you look at the mountain he attacks while training its a single cut….the rasen shiriken has an uncountable amount of cuts.
I think the waves of rage line just means that Naruto is really angry personally, but it’s just my opinion and is as good a guess as any.
I also have a few cents to throw on the Tobito pile. Where he says: “My Power, Uchiha Madara’s Power.” Why would he talk about himself in the third person, and if he is Madara, that means he’s just repeating himself. I think that it is somehow Obito, and he just inherited Madara’s powers. One of my more plausable and less easy for people to shoot down theories is that Eternal Mangekyou, means not only that it can be activated eternally without using too much chakra or making the person blind. I also think it means that you can pass on your chakra and powers to another Uchiha. Which is why Tobi is helping Sasuke to rebuild his clan and so on, so that he has more Uchiha’s to live on through, forever.
I’ll admit that this theory has probably been said over and over again, but if you’ve heard it before, then it’ll be fresher in your mind, and might be the spark you need to come up with an even better, and hopefully more accurate theory yourself!
we just read too much into the manga…
(harshytkage goes back to obama’s swearing ceremony)
Naruto-s new attack is gonna be>
;Freaking strong
Somehow related to frog katas<
It will relate to wind chakra.]
Maybe he will form a rasenshuriken and wield with the frog Katas,killing the enemy by wrapping him up in katas,kill him with a complete rasenshuriken while not getting hurt.
I know this has nothing to do with naruto, but I just found out that Tengen toppa Gurren Lagann now has a manga series out that is in a diffrent reality then the anime (you can find it on one manga).
P.S- to the people who have never seen Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann WATCH IT NOW!!!!! if not I will have the swayze kick your ass “WHO THE HELL DO YOU THINK WE ARE!!!”
anyone know abt that parody manga in which there’s a blind kid instead of naruto or smfin …i’ve heard it’s hilarious
@ Lastscorpion – they are also making a Tengan Toppa Gurren Lagann movie! ^_^
Yeah but the movie is just the anime put into a movie >_< I was pissed when I found that out.
@Jeremiah- I take it that the yoruichi pic means you are about to do a bleach section soon ^_^. Well If you are, bleach is something I can make new theories for -_+. Bleach is so slow with the story right now, but it still has a ton of action.
P.S I might have to change my icon to urahara since I look just like him…..If he had brown hair lol.
Am I the only one who noticed that someone said “Well done… Tsunade”?
It wasn’t a regular speech bubble either, it was more like a thought bubble. Or it might have been a “this is very important” bubble!
I know it wasn’t Sakura who said that to Tsunade. It could have been Danzo… or Jiraiya. >:D
What I mean is that Tsunade is dying and she is slowly descending into the afterlife, thus she would be able to hear Jiraiya.
But, its more likely to be Danzo who said it. I expect him to take advantage of the situation to take control of Konoha in the midst of all the chaos.
@RockleeX-Look at the earlier posts. Several theories about the text bubble are discussed.
haha i assumed it was the anbu guy…. she did protect the whole village
the tobito theory is just not possible….because that means that obito fooled none other than Itachi….that aint happening…
Just found this on YouTube. May be fake or real. IDK..
I think that Kabutokan guy needs a cock meat sandwich. Just putting it out there.
————————–BREAK THROUGH———————-unless i’m too high to realize it
So i’m sure you guys have been reading the series from beginning to end. so you guys can probably prove my theory wrong or not because i havn’t read the whole series…just from like 2nd deidara arc.
so remember back in the first set of naruto when he was still a kid? itachi and the fish guy came to “take naruto” and jiraiya trapped them in the frog mouth jutsu? Itachi used amateratsu and busted out taht thing.
———–After that jiraiya took out some kind of scroll and took a sample of the black fire technique but never mentioned that EVERRR.
What is naruto’s forbiddon jutsu was a duplicate of amateratsu?
i know i know but i would have never gotten that brilliant idea if it wasn’t for the weed i just smoked. =P
————————–BREAK THROUGH———————-unless i’m too high to realize it
So i’m sure you guys have been reading the series from beginning to end. so you guys can probably prove my theory wrong or not because i havn’t read the whole series…just from like 2nd deidara arc.
so remember back in the first set of naruto when he was still a kid? itachi and the fish guy came to “take naruto” and jiraiya trapped them in the frog mouth jutsu? Itachi used amateratsu and busted out taht thing.
———–After that jiraiya took out some kind of scroll and took a sample of the black fire technique but never mentioned that EVERRR.
What is naruto’s forbiddon jutsu was a duplicate of amateratsu?
i know i know but i would have never gotten that brilliant idea if it wasn’t for the weed i just smoked. =P
that would (NOT) be awesome….Naruto with amaterasu is Gay…i like the idea of him fating out Amaterasu(winks at J-main)….but there should be something after jiraiya took a sample…dunno maybe it does have something to do in the future
yeah amaterasu is crap though its just a fire.
a fire that Madara & Sasuke can handle with relative ease..in time Kakashi as well.
I think the forbidden jutsu was just something that required to control kyubbi first…
OH MY F**KING GOD IT HAPPENED, RASENSHURIKEN PROJECTILE ATTACK!!!
JUST SAW THE SPOILER AND ALMOST PISSED MYSELF!!!
http://mangahelpers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=45610
FUCKING AWESOME THE WHOLE SHIT WAS BASICALLY SCANLATED
fina-f**kin’-ly we all get to see what we’ve been theorizin’ for what feels like a fucking eternity since wayback with kakuzu. and when it started getting f**king unbearable was the sawed off mountain-tops that jeremiah had to point out for the less experienced narutards that initially overlooked that tiny ass cloud in the f**king background *hangs head in shame*
bah this weeks issue is gunna rule for $h^t sure!!!
oops it seems that i might have over embellished that previous comment with obscenities, please understand emotional outburst considering that naruto was kicking some serious pain-sama POSTERIOR in the this weeks release of WSJ.
my most sincere of apologies to the moderators, but once you see the pictures, i mean, COME ON, that was some incredible shizzer. no seriously it was. ok last time, SUGOI!!!
@ JEREMIah you might not wanna toss your Kushina theory so soon, because it appears as though animal realm is being protected by Gamabunta…
You can see a spoiler for 432 here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GiFjmm_Ivs
If confirmed as it says and looks authentic 432 is gonna be another awesomeness issue. I am salivating heavily but not drooling quite as bad as animal pain is as he is lying in a heep on the ground… Fuuton rasenshuriken looks soooo cool and deadly.
Awesomeness again it looks like a killer issue.
That spoiler looks to be real. I called it, projectile Rasenshuriken, but it seems he is out of sage mode time. So, what next?
Will Pain retreat? Kyuubi rage? Danzo help/treachery?
spoiler 432 pics
http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/3917/01bytubux4.jpg
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http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/1183/03bytubvi5.jpg
http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/9669/05bytubas1.jpg
http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/4026/04bytubim3.jpg
http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/6353/06bytubhs7.jpg
http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/7130/07bytubuk9.jpg
@EroSennin that looks very dangerous. i dont think even madarra will be able to evade in time
Naruto runs out of Sage mode at the end… Why do I have a nagging feeling that Naruto is about to get his ass handed to him in the next issue after they are all resurected again?
In 433 we may see the Pain’s attack all at once and from every angle like they did against Jiraiya…
@_@
I’ve also just pulled Charzelo and Tinman out of the spam dumpster this morning and I think it happened to Nighthawk last week. I’m not deleting your comments, the wordpress spam filter is seeing your links as spam.
well it looks like me along with a lot of this site were right when we said he could throw rasenshuriken hahaha
All the spoilers refer to Naruto as being in Sennin mode. Are Sennin mode, Sage mode, and Hermit mode all the same thing … using Senjutsu to gather natural energy? Or did I miss something?
I really wanted a completely new jutsu, it was inevitable that he was gonna throw the fuuton rasenshuriken. I mean it is a shuriken. Am i right?? Would anyone have wanted to see something completely different? or is it just me??
yeah its all da same…
i think the other realms of pain are done for now. pain will need time to ressurect them and naruto wont give him that chance. wer definitly gnna see a more equal fight now. one pain and one normal naruto.
but at some point naruto will use clones to go into sage mode again briefly to finish off pain. he will only be in sage mode for one move. but it will be the deciding one.
i knew naruto would smack down the other pains
and then run out of natural energy ;D
next prediction,
he gets attacked, someone helps or delays
he goes back into sage mode
god realm is stuck by his 7 second time thing were he cant use his jutsu
bye bye mr pain
oh oh and then nagato will be pissed that yaihko ? cant spell his name
body is gone and get akatsuki to go to konoha, or something like that
I’m a little disappointed that THE jutsu was “just” his old jutsu thrown at the enemy. I would have preferred to see a whole new jutsu, the jutsu Jiraiya said to Naruto to not use. “Do not use THAT jutsu Naruto, no matter what happens.” where up Naruto answers “I know …”.
I think it’s also a shame that Naruto couldn’t remain in Sennin mode. I would have liked to see something better there. But hey, that’s something that can be worked on for Naruto.
The question now is: How will Pain react?
I agree with you nighthawk. I wanted to see “that” jutsu!! “That” jutsu better be something beyond amazing because the anticipation of seeing or even gettin clues about what the justu could be is ridiculous.
With Naruto throwing the FRS though woundn’t that mean that long haired pain as mentioned can’t be resurrected because every single cell which probably means the chackra recievers can’t have any chackra flow everything is cut by the FRS.
Sorry to only comment in flashes, but I’ve been real busy lately. Well, Naruto finally adds a long range jutsu to his arsenal. 431 was great and 432 appears to only continue the awesomeness, and leaves us with the cliffhanger of Naruto out of sage mode (Kishi has me on cliffhanger overload, I can’t take anymore). Cannot be sure yet, but it appears that only Deva Realm is left standing. If Naruto has disabled the Naraka Realm that uses the ‘God of Hell’ summons then Nagato will only have Yahiko’s body left. Will Nagato risk just Deva Realm (his former friend), or will he retreat? I don’t think that Deva realm can stand against the rest of the village, and a Naruto who hasn’t unleashed the tailed beast yet. If Naruto is out of chakra, and Deva realm stays to fight then I would say that a tailed beast is next. After all Naruto has the key dosn’t he? I think that Naruto will be able to maintain Sage mode longer as he practices it (or is emotionally forced to like Ichigo in Hallow Mask Mode). Still nothing on the condition of Kakashi (Dead Man Not Walking), is there something to Obito and Kakashi both being buried under rubble? I have read that some here say that he can’t die because he didn’t fulfill he promise, but he did save Choji & his dad. Anyone else hear a Rubenesque lady singing in the distance? I am guessing that Naruto ended Animal Realm in the toads mouth to keep the summoned animals away while he worked her over, anyway without translations that’s my best guess.
Okay this is slightly off topic but relates to pain..
is anyone here from the uk with a £10 note ?
if you look at the queens eyes on the note ..
it looks like she has the rinnengan
i was well freaked out when i saw it haha
“God save the Pain” lol
If someone has a very good resolution scan of a close up of her eye, email it to me. I want to see that!
^_^
Jeremiah@iareawesomeness.com
ive had a look
ill try and scan it tomorrow
but i dont know if the scanners high quality enough
but yeah its quite kool theres about 3 rings in each eye