Naruto Manga 431 Naruto Errupts!!! is Finally out! + Breakdown and discussion of Naruto Manga 430
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Naruto Manga 431 Naruto Errupts!!! is out!! Click HERE or the translation link above to read it!
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-Break down of Naruto Manga 430 is below-
You may have won the first staring contest but I shall win this time! Believe it!
Hey everyone,
Surprise Surprise! The new manga has been released and I’ve got the break down on the new issue. I’ve used the low quality scans that were available but shortly after the high quality one comes out I’ll update the post and replace them with the usual good stuff. Also I’d like to put a disclaimer that because of the low quality some of the breakdown may change once the good stuff comes out because the low quality leaves some questions as to the status of our favorite one eyed nin Kakashi. So, this is not the final cut of this breakdown but it will have to do for now. Until then…
How excited were you when you read this issue for the first time?! I was so pumped! It was everything I could have hoped for in a return issue for Naruto. The scene was set, Pain was dominating Konoha, everything looked grim. And then we see Naruto appear through that summons cloud with a jacket similar to what the forth wore. Holy shit! This is what it’s all about. This is what we were all waiting for! This is what we all knew he could do and now we get to watch him drop the hammer on the one who killed Jiraiya and destroyed the village we all love… so let’s get this review started…
Nurse! Do we have a pulse?! I won't let you die on me you son of a bitch! Live! Live!
For the most part it seems that everyone is saved by Tsunade and her slimy slugs. Kiba and his mom, Chouji and his dad etc. all thanks to the 5th Hokage. Which leaves her super vulnerable now that her Souzousaisei technique has been used up but I’ll get back to that later… More important is Kakashi lying there in a questionable state. Whith these low quality scans I can’t tell if his eye is open, closed or destroyed. I’m guessing once we can see what is going on with this eye, it will help us figure out his current condition, for better or worse. So this part of the breakdown will probably change with the better scans.
(Update: Sadly this is the better scan, I still can’t tell what his eye is doing. Does anyone else feel as though this manga was roughly sketched by Kishi just before the SJ Christmas party? This isn’t the only panel. You can see the quick outline sketches on the outside main lines in many of the panels. These latest pics are from sleepy fans so they have been cleaned. Hmmm… possible rush job? Kishi growing tired of doing Naruto? Perhaps the reason for so many things happening so quickly? Hope not.
Back to the eye. If you ask me, the eye is closed and blood is running down the length of his face, which some have mistaken for an open eye. But thats just a guess and what I think it looks like.)
The staring contest continues! Pain is winning... I think... do zombies even blink?
Naruto and Pain look each other in the eye’s and are ready rumble. Pain is glad that Naruto came to him and Naruto is… well, he’s not happy at all… he’s really pissed. In all that comotion Pain destroyed Naruto’s picture of team Kakashi and his favorite Ramen bowl. No one puts his picture in corner! Nobody!
The only thing worse than paper cuts... suffocation... well maybe not the ONLY thing worse.
I don’t think this is even going to be close. Naruto is going to pwn Deva Pain and its going to force an eventual face off with Nagato. Even Konan has bugged out releasing her paper bunshin returning to the side of Nagato. That is an incredibly strong bunshin. If you recall the power of past bunshins I don’t think any of them has done anything besides cause a minor disctraction. Her paper bunshin pwnd many a Konoha nin by suffocation and with ease. I’m pretty sure that Jiraiya was completely fooled unfortunately. He never fought Konan, it was just a bunshin and as Ibibi has said before, he didn’t really pwn the original Animal Realm, Pain just allowed him to take him so that the chakra recievers would continue to transmit locating the center of Konoha… that Nagato is a clever lad.
(Update: I kept this scan over the sleepy fans because this translation is better and makes more sense than the sleepy fans version.)
Noooooooooooooooooooooooo!
Never ever have I hated a character more than this douche. Between the lame ass lazer head move and what he did to Kakashi, I just can’t fucking stand him. This is a recap of what I was saying as I was reading the new manga and saw him getting put back together: “God no! I hate Laser head! Why won’t you stay dead?! Why can’t you just go away?! Die! Die! Die!”
Lunch time! Every one line up. And no pushing!
Well I guess this answers the question on whether they are done for good or not. Just as I thought they are reactivated and ready for battle with a flick of Nagato’s wrist. And wouldn’t ya know… guess who’s back?!?! I loved this panel because it’s like Pain saying “yeah, Naruto is back, so what…” It’s like him lining up his army and saying “bring it” This will play very well in the anime as they all hit the ground at the same time looking very intimidating.
Besides Jiraiya, I think this is the most agressive move ever to touch Tsunade's breasts... Huge breasts make men do crazy shit sometimes ^_^
Raise your hand if you thought this was the end for Tsunade… There should be alot of hands up right now cause everything that we had been talking about and predicting was coming to fruition right in front of our eye’s. They had just gotten done explaining how weakened Tsunade had been by saving everyone with the slugs. She made and attempt to put her foot down as the 5th Hokage and spit in the face of fear and reason. All this would make you think she would be ready for an attack… not exactly, she actually looked surprised. Ready to be pwnd you could even say… and then something wonderful happend! But before that, is Tsunade out of the woods now that Naruto is here?
This is for Kakashi you... punk... mother... F**KER!
So the atmosphere is thick and tension is high, things still seem intimidating and dim. Pain has thrown down the guantlet and pretty much said “bring it”, Lazer head has lunged for Tsunade and then silence… the quiet before the storm. You know that scene in every big budget action movie where it is deafaning slow motion silence just before the shit hits the fan… Perfect graceful silence… and then an earth shattering BOOOOM! Good bye douche bag…. Ahhhh! So much better. YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAHHHHHHHH! F&*K YEAH! HAHAHAHA! F&*K YOU, YOU F&*KING F&*K!
Wasn’t that a great show of power?! Naruto used the shock and awww technique and just straight up pwnd this weak @$$ B!TC# in one swift movement. You could almost feel the collective Naru nation let out a cheer as we saw our hero trounce the most annoying villan ever. I think I actually jumped up out of my chair when I saw this and pumped my fist. I loved this panel and it will forever be burned into my memory. I will say now that lazer head is down for the count and will not be making a return appearance. What do you think?
Yup... I see the balls... it's a boy!
(Update: Since a few of you wanted a close up of Naruto’s pwnage of Lazer head, I felt obligated. Yes it is a Rasengan.)
I see dead people...
This was a great panel. It was great to see Naruto being compared to Jiraiya and Minato in the manga just like we do every week in the comments section. I can’t be that happy considering it kinda seals the deal that Jiraiya is dead. It’s the ghosts of Konoha’s past… symbolic, I know… you know… just kinda sad.
The most over used line in the history of anime/manga...
Don’t get me wrong… I’m super excited. I love that the pace of the manga has really picked up but couldn’t Kishi have picked something more profound for Naruto to say rather than the most over used line in the history of anime or manga? I’m not sure what he should have said but I’m leaving it to you guys. Tell us in the comments section what you think Naruto should have said and next week I’ll give props to the best one and replace Naruto’s words with the commentors as we will celebrate that commentors awesomeness! So break out the good stuff and we’ll have another great week of discussion while we enter into the new year with the most kick ass issue of manga in a long time.
Ja,
Jeremiah
Naruto should have yelled:
Fiiiiiiiiiiirst!
2nd!
woh! bono! suck you! i was waiting here all the time and yet you got me first!
naruto should have yelled: i’m gonna fu** you to death!
@ Glen – it’s what I do mate. That and shag. Now back to shagging.
hahahha! ow, i know jeremiah’s phase. next time i’ll gonna get you
*now
The manga was too crazy! Naruto wit da sage mode b-boy stance!
anyone wondering what that scroll on naruto’s back might be? is it the frog summoning contract? yeah i do agree naruto could of said something better. i would of prefered ” I’m gonna crush you!” or ” You’ll pay for this!!!”
Yea that scroll looks very interesting gotta see how naruto pulls this one off but thinking of things to say everything that comes to mind would be corny
i can’t believe it! unlike the last one, this chapter was pretty simple and easy to understand….i loved it!
@captn: that is the official uniform for the sages….i guess…i don’t remember seeing the 4th with that dress (and i don’t even know if he was a sage)
can’t wait for the finer prints….i couldn’t even see kakashi clearly in this lousy print….but well, since it was released yesterday ( i guess) it’s the best that could be done….
does anyone know how naruto killed the “cyborg pain”???? just a powerful punch in the head or rasengan…cuz the pose looks like he pushed a rasengan into that cyborg pain….
oh yes….i can’t wait to see naruto’s fall….it’s gonna happen….naruto’s awesome jutsus are gonna look like video game to pain…and then naruto does something even more bigger….
WOW!!!! that truly is a new year gift!!!!
he must have mastered the sage mode
Tons of cool stuff going down. There a question that I thought of. If Tobi had the chance would he take Kakashi’s Mengeko Sharingun. Tobi can teleport instantly and if there ever was a time now would be that moment. This of course assuming he would go for that. *Looks at Kakashi’s bleeding eye* Maybe he’s so quick he’s already done it. Nah?
See that was an entrance, naruto is looken real gansta, the new sage cloak, he was already on sage mode and he came in with the 3 toad bosses. I bet naruto get some pussy after he whoops pains ass. And yes that was filthy how naruto just shut lazer head down with one punch. I hope he has dope move to kill each of the pains and of course the dope move should be left for god pain ( I just hate that smug look on his face ). And the other corny thing naruto said that dumb shit he said to tsunade after he crash laser bitch. Kishi blew wit those to corny lines.
I woulda said, try to fia your lazza now.
maybe he shouldve said “Im gonna teach you what real Pain is u bastard !”
“IM GONNA RIP YOU TO THOUSAND PIECES FOR WHAT YOU DID !!!”… somewhat old but has the Punch in it
“ Im gonna show you what REAL PAIN is you Bastard ! ” — what he shouldve said
Naruto should have said “I”m gonna force you to buttrape each other so you’ll be a pain in each other’s asses.”
Naruto should have ugh I pity the fool who destroyed my village. But anyway I hope naruto hurries up this fight so I can see wat nagato looks like and I can see what the rinnegan can really do. Oh and can some one explain to me why nagato is takin orders if he has the worlds greatest eye technique that created the first jutsus and all that other oopla that jiriya said
cant wait for madara to finish off pain after hed be defeated by naruto. it seems that would turn out that way. i got that feeling madara wont have use for pain anymore. ill laugh out loud when that sht happens cos every member of akats are disposable even its leader. i bet madara have choosen pain as a leader of akats to fullfill 4 things, 1. use pain to gather skilled ninja that seeks war to ninja world, 2. use those recruited ninjas as a pawns of pain to capture bijuu’s host. 3. use pain’s power/skill/jutsu together with the pawns’ (akats members) chakra/power to extract and collect bijuu powers.
AND, HERES THE LAST REASON WHY PAIN IS USE AS A LEADER OF AKATS, NOT MADARA. Akatsuki organization would dissolved in this arc.(that means its leader will die together with that group)
akats org, it is just mere a temporary group that Madara formed to complete a stage 1 of his real goal. im not sure about his real goal but it has to do with bijuus powers and the fag sasuke. this will be like the season 2 of bleach ending, where aizen left bleach society and forgets his role being a captain and join arancar to seek heaven luls. it would be same type of leaving that madara would do to akats group… why did i said ” akats will dissolve”.. dont you think its the right time for kishi to start a new arc and bridgin this arc to more interesting one with completely different. i know people have gotten tired/ desynthized with the group name akats. the death of pain would be good bridges to a new arc with madara starring as a foe.
the only madara’s trustworthy comrades in akats are the 2-face guy, kisame, and some unintroduce characters that madara is working with outside akats (diehard comrades of madara). who knows who are they but i guess its a ninja from other countries that the hokages of konoha had fought and now joined madara to seek revenge to all konohans. think about it… madara, and kakuzu are in the generation of the first hokage.. how big is the chances that a rival foes of hokages of konoha is still alive till now. 50-50, and you can add the 4ths enemies that he failed to kill that seeks revenge to konoha and remaining relatives of the 4th.
it would be great for naruto if he faces several ninjas that his father failed to kill in the next arc. the only way to make this work and bridges this arc to a interesting new arc if naruto kills pain, and madara would reveal his ideals to pein are not the same when he kills him and take all the captured bijuus with him and trustworthy/real comrades and unintroduce characters comrades.
Naruto should have said: “You know, Im from a small village called Freshoffofpains Ass and you made me home sick!”
Oh wait, he should have puffed his chest out and in a mighty roar…”SPOOON!!!”
and for my reaction regarding konan using strong kagebunshin, i dont think even she fooled jiraiya, i pretty damn sure she cant defeat jiraiya. seriously, pain would not confronted jiraiya himself if he thought konan had a chance defeating jiraiya. i think pain knows jiraiya is too much for konan to face, and he didnt want another friend to die like yahiko.
Now how did naruto manage to master sage mode when the kyuubi wouldn’t accept the frogs? I would love to know how he did that
he is gona get killed after he kills pain tsunaade going to save him by dat life exchange jutsu and thhen naruto going to be 6th hokage
i almost cried reading that issue! this is the best issue ever! this is awesomeness!
it’s 7 vs 7! naruto + the 6 greatest frog-summons against 6 realms of pain + konan – animal realm (i don’t think that’s the end of his role. remember the kakashi fight? he still have something to show). i don’t think naruto will let others to enter the scene. this is naruto’s fight!
@Makumbaum, i totaly agree with you. naruto must have a weapon infused with wind element. that would be the perfect thing to counter sasuke’s katana infused with chidori. but that’s another story, i don’t think it’s time for a sasugay to enter and ruin the awesomeness scene.
@arrun, coz i had that feeling that 430 was coming out.
so the epic battle is starting huh? i think this is the perfect time to unleash (ten tenenen!!!!!) fuuton: flying rasenshuriken!!! i think that would kick some ass! but i don’t think that would be tendou’s body. maybe some other realm. my guess for this fight would be something fast but that’s only in the case of the other relams. against tendou would be a different story. i think kishi will end the fight against tendou then nagato will finally show up. i think this would be 2 more issues for the other realms, 3 against tendou and 2 against nagato. so 7 issues exluding this one. i wanna give the awesomeness award to kishi for making a great issue before the end of the year. i think this is a perfect issue for us to continue our support for naruto. kishi is really thinking.
about kakashi, i think his alive. you see the part where it shows his image? his body is shaking (somehow) and i don’t think that’s caused by the after shock of shinra tensei. he is alive! viva kakashi!
for those who are hoping for shika’s grand entrance, sorry. he wasn’t awesomeness this time. i think that is to give way for naruto’s growth. naruto has really grown up. now he has surpased the 4th and jiraiya. now he is the total awesomess!
now the swayze got a match!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/27691653@N05/2972174300/
viva naruto!
@captnmexico21, can we have the same gravatar?
Naruto “What the hell made you’d think I’d let you PWN granny Tsunade??”
@pain, that was just a punch
err guyss in the picture of naruto PWNING Lazer Head
Isnt he using rasengan ?
you can see by his hands and theres a little ball underneither ^.^ ?
i wonder if this is the right time for naruto to discover his blood line limit. that would probably happen if sage mode isn’t enough to beat pein
naruto should have said: ” i won’t finish this!”….” coz there’ll be next time you mother f**ker!
when will i see zetsu fite?an naruto should have said to pain”you bastard…you’re about to die
Naruto should have used the line from Rocky 5:
“You’ve knocked them down. Now why don’t you try and knock me down!?”
And if you look real close you can see that Kakashi’s mangekyou is activated still, or that’s what it looks like to me. Isn’t that a bad idea? in his state should he be using up all of his chakra? i thought it’d be deactivated when he was all unconscious and stuff.
it looks like kakashi is being blown away by the blast and not on the ground
kakahi’s eye is partially opened. don’t know if that’s a sign that he is alive
yoh!
That wasn’t a punch it was a rasengan.
shit i didnt get first this time i hate my time zone i m3 hours ahead and i was sleeping
hell yeah!!!!!
but what will happen with sasuke now tht naruto’s that strong?
Yeahh Wilco it is Rasengan isnt it ?
?
Can anyone tell me what happened to Yamato
i havent seen him ina while
First of all Naruto should have said something with Believe it in it….
I like the idea of Madara going for Kakashi’s…. then Naruto would have to train to get back at Madara….and I do think Madara is stronger than pain as he controls pain so easily… maybe even naruto and sasuke could team up to take revenge from madara… that would be nice i think
oh and one question…. naruto came at laser head very fast… think he finally got yellow flash’s speed… maybe something jairiya left with the frogs to give naruto on behalf of fourth or something????
Great issue!!
kakashi is still alive. Why would the slug be attached to a dead guy?
Naruto is hella strong & pissed, not a good combination for Pain.
Naruto should have said, “nobody tried to touch Granny Tsunade’s breasts but me a$$munch!”
hey naruto is gonna kill them all or maybe when he is loosing appers a friend like that mother fucker of sasuke or maybe the hokage whos brother is the eight tailed beast u no, dont need to explain more however i would realy like naruto have the same power os nagato teletransportation so he can go imidiatly nexto the real pain lets no forget about him. a and when he finishes he would aver hinata and sakura vere wet by the way
porra muito fodaa
Naruto sucks
LMFAO @ Handicapable – “Naruto should have said “I”m gonna force you to buttrape each other so you’ll be a pain in each other’s asses.”
Also a fan of “try to fia your lazza now.” by Owtoe
But I would have added a bitch! or a douche bag! at the end of that.
ROTFL ^_^
Naruto should’ve said….”Noone goes for granny’s boobs except ero-sennin(lol)….”
DAMN russ….u stole my idea!!!
or “yo pain! u suck”(short and simple)
or “WTF! wanna see that in slow mo sixer head!”
or “i’m no superman! but u ain’t no swayze either douchebag!”
I’m also digging elasticatedninja’s:
“You’ve knocked them down. Now why don’t you try and knock me down!?”
That would have been pretty hard core.
@jeremiah:YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAHHHHHHHH! F&*K YEAH! HAHAHAHA! F&*K YOU, YOU F&*KING F&*K!(i said the exact same thing when i saw that panel!word to word!!!!)
or “Umm…mr pain sir…you forgot to say sorry….”
or “I’m so glad the only thing lserheads gonna be shootin is his own earthed up ass for a change….”(actually…thats smfin that i say^^)
and BTW doesn’t kakashi’s eye look like those kinda prosthetic eye that bad guy osed to wear in “the last action hero” with a badly painted mangekyou….is it just me or he has a swollen left eye
Naruto should have said
”
” Now its time for me to be a Pain in your ass
or “one of your bodies just got a taste of my balls shithead”(balls=rasengan)
sry for spamming….this issue got me really high!
LOL @ Harshyt
Or Like
” Only Six? I Can Make 1000 Of Me!”
cos of like shadow clones
Naruto could have said a lot of things. Like, “Bring it, bitch, it’s on!”, or “Be careful what you wish for, you might not like what you get” or anything else cooler than the most overused line ever, manga and anime aside. LOL
Oh, and I totally called it last week when I said those shadows would be three of Myobokuzan’s toads, though I didn’t foresee Naruto standing on top them looking like a badass. Still total awesomeness =)
Jeremiah, great analysis of issue 430. I can’t wait for 431 to come out.
Naruto should say, “The pain ends here !!!”
naruto shuda said “ur abt to shit ur pants rascal”!!
“Lets settle this once and for all !!!!” The newer one acc to onemanga.
Naruto should’ve said, “WHERE THE F**K IS SASUKE ‘TTEBAYO”
That would’ve been more like him. You guys have to remember that he has a 50 word vocabulary, not much you can do with that. He should make 1000 Kage Bunshin and read 1000 books in a day.
lets Settle this once and for all!!! — according to the new onemanga.. i think this is worse
The picture of Naruto with the 4th and Jiraya was epic! But it raised a few questions for me.
I was under the impression that many of the older nin in Konoha (including the 3rd) knew that Naruto was the son of the 4th. But in the earlier manga, Tsunade played like she was shocked that Jiraya would even dare teach Naruto the Rasengan. But why would she be surprised if she knew of the link between Naruto and the 4th? Would she not know this link considering that Jiraya is really Naruto’s godfather? Why wouldn’t the rest of the village know that Naruto is the son of the 4th? Wouldn’t it be pretty hard to keep a baby secret from an entire village? Finally, the 3rd forbade anyone talking about Naruto being the vessel of the 9-tails to keep him from being ostracized but did he forbid the village from telling Naruto he was the son of the 4th too?
BTW… It was great watching Sakura cream in her jeans once Naruto arrived.
Naruto should have said “I got your Pain right here!”
naruto should have said who’s next or ill kill you
Naruto shoulda said “Nobody puts granny in a corner”.
Or, “Its time you understood the real meaning of pain, bitch…”
Woah this chapter was so good. Kakashi is definitely gonna survive. I think the fight is not going to end. I think Pain gonna retreat cos he’s already weak. I hope Naruto shows his new Jutsu first.
I just have to say that I still think naruto will make nagato have a chang or heart (just before he dies).
There’s an updated scan on OneManga.com although it didn’t improve the frame with Kakashi at all.
watching the 4th and jiraiya makes me think if jiraiya is really dead i think he is otherwise they won’t show a image of him, and i think kakashi still alive because his eye was open no way they going to kill off a a character like him. as for naruto vs pain i think naruto going to struggle like crazy to fight pain since there 5 of them and they all have there own technique to use to counter naruto moves so naruto has find each and every weakness of each pain hes fighting against, the next comic book going to be a battle for the ages.
He should of just been like f*** you b****, I’m the shi*
better prints are up, unfortunately the Kakashi page still sucks It looks like a rough draft sketch almost they’re toying with us!
tsunade dies and naruto becomes hokage lol that propably wont happen yet. i think naruto is going to kill pain but then madara and sasuke apear to fight naruto =)
nice post.
PAIN YOU’RE WRONG IT MAKES IT EASIER TO FIND YOU NOW! KAGEBUNSHIN NO JUTSU. BUTT RAPE HIM MY CLONES!! EXCELLENT!@!@!
i have a question….when that guy says “that’s…” and sakura looks to see naruto, where is naruto?????
no clue about wtf i asked? well, just look in page 11 bottom right box….where is naruto there? (or are they sensing him like dbz?)
forgot to mention….better prints are out…if you already didn’t know….
I think the scroll on his back is somethink that ll unseal and fuse the nine tail beast with naruto the way that was done with eight tail beast.
he should of said “i feel no pain”
(turns super sayian)..
also i’m new at commenting. been following this site for awhile. but this issue was too pwnage to pass up commenting
LOL NARUTO’s A KICKASS!
Anyways, yeah, the theories you just stated were pretty good, but there’s still a possibility that they recovered the body but the other probability would be that they didn’t (because the place was all destroyed and seeing Naruto episode’s for a long time, they DO NOT “usually” recover dead bodies). But my theory will be, well, one’s the 8 tailed beast would meet Naruto, – because they’re the only hosts that are still alive- and teach him how to handle his kyubii. So basically, Naruto’s getting trained before he faces the main villain. Could be Sasuke or Madara, who knows? So now let’s count how much techniques Naruto has learned so far:
- Sage mode
- Incoming control of the kyubii
- Incoming unlocking of the powers Itachi gave him
- The scroll on his back
- The scroll that Jiraiya mention that Naruto will use Yin and Yang or something like that to finish Minato’s technique (its about unsealing the beast).
- And the elements he might still have. He only worked on one right now, but seriously? Having Minato as his Dad and some other great ninja as his mom? He has gotta have some other elements.
But seriously, I want to know what power Itachi gave him!
And also, Kakashi and Jiraiya had a hard time killing the Laser Head Pein while Naruto just went farted on the guy.
@Pain- the guy beside Sakura has Keke Genkai. He was just telling what Naruto was doing to her.
And for the line, he should have said: I’m gonna burn and bring your so called “Godly” ass down to hell!
@pain the guy has byakugan
Oh oops, yea Byakugan. Not Kekei Genkai. -_-”
The one who says it is a Hyuuga, so he can see him with his Byakugan, even if Naruto is not in sight.
man this site is wierd with comments. i post acomment, refresh the page, and five minutes later there’s a ton of comments between my post and the post that i thought was before me. really, this site really is really slow and weird.
(you guys know i’m not talking about you. its wordpress in itself)
i’m hoping the snow will go away soon.
naruto should have just went Stalone on them.
“they drew blood first!!!” haha or
“YO tsunade!!! I DID IT!!”
im also diggin the other comments i saw. Something like, but not exactly, “THOSE ARE ERO’S TITS!!. . . .bitch” gotta throw that bitch in there. He’s gangsta now.
Oh yeah, lol. Byakugan not Kekei Genkai. -_-”
@Anon- LOL YEAH!
why do people still forget about kabuto/orochimaru they can come back anytime and start killn mother fuckas
“Shit, who the fuck do you think you are? You don’t even know what Pain is, let me show you.”
.::["Kermit the Frog Rasengan Shurikan!!!"]::.
.::["I'll define the meaning of pain today!"]::.
.::["Anyone else wanna go for her breast?"]::.
.::["Ribit..."]::.
.::[Even just a pissed off "AHHHHHHH!!!!"]::.
Naruto to Pian: “come here you motherfucking weak ass bitch and watch me ride you like a shwayze taxi”
Pain’s thoughts.
Note to self:Eat flies like frogs to gain true powers.
P.S.-Wrap them up in Konan’s paper and Laser head’s Ketchup.They say it does wonders to the skin.
P.P.S.-Oh yeah,avoid the freaky Fox/Frof/WTF jinchurii kid that looks like that porn Master sage that I killed.
so gamabunta is fukakusu’s grandson, i thought so from the original scan… lol, i love how the scan cleared up some of the speech bubbles and what not but they made the picture of kakashi even worse than the original…
isn’t that blue-green frog the one jiriah was on when naruto was in the hospital after sasuke ran away?
errr no never mind.
Naruto should had said:
Come,you freaky hipnotist eyes dude!Hey,don´t cry either,or pout,Cause Santa Claus gonna pown your ass,mother######
Naruto to Pain, he needs like the classic sentence:
-Hasta la Vista Baby(AHHHHHHHHH,schawzynigger kinda sentence);
-That’s my cheesse,homie!;
-I will(burp,ahhh…).
Pain to Naruto:
IT’S OVER 9000!IMPOSSIBLE!
he should have said”silly pain tricks are for kids”
So does 431 come out this week or next??
no 431 is coming on friday, or maybe thursday.
ah..Jeremiah this week’s post is just AWESOMENESS
haha!! every time i was reading the comments i would search yours from your icon..now i couldn’t..lol
and Glen you’ve changed your icon
now as far as the manga concerned i want Naruto to F@@#! Pain’s ass!!!YEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH!!!the next would be even more epic..do u guys think that he’ll use Fuuton Rasen Shuriken??i want to see the completed version asap!!
Naruto should have said, “you thought you knew pain, but now I am going to put my evil inside you!
@ Green – I like: ”Only Six? I Can Make 1000 Of Me!”
@ Harshy – The best one you said was: “wanna see that in slow mo” reminds me of Ace Ventura. That would be funny except he pwns another body but in slow mo ^_^
@ real – “Pain to Naruto:
IT’S OVER 9000!IMPOSSIBLE!”
LMFAO! Nice DBZ reference!
@ sensei – love the Stallone stuff, lolz
@ anon – snow dissapears on the 4th of january.
@ Migagawe – that’s pimp
@ idang – “I feel no Pain” That’s appropriate and pimp
@ Mosesgunn – Tsunade knew for sure, Ibi actually linked to a discussion with Jiraiya one time that proves that she knew but I’m too lazy to look for it again. Perhaps when Ibi gets back online she’ll back me up on this one.
I also liked that Sakura got excited about what Naruto did. I don’t hate her as much as most people do even though I think Kishi is totally holding her back. It would be an interesting love triangle between her, hinata and Naruto after a time skip.
@ Scorpion – I also think this… just before he dies. Just like in my crazy prediction post from a while back.
my friend just suggested a line from the small soldiers for Naruto to say:
“You’ve got a lotta guts! Lets see what they look like!”
interesting thing about 430. Konan dispels her paper clone before Naruto starts his battle with Pain. Since the clones would pick up and send experience to the main user, Konan will miss the benefit of knowing Naruto’s true fighting strength. It may not matter though if Negato gets the same feedback once Naruto pwns his 6 bodies.
Remember naruto can make clones and that will give him upper hand. I think Naruto is hiding somewhere else and the one standing there is clone ,if pain attacks him all sudden he wont get killed his way. Thats the way to use brain man. see next week guys.
hello jeramaih im sorry if i spelt ur name wrong but i have a question were do u get ur manga wen they come out and do u have a way too get them before they come out same goes wit the cartoon series plzzzz leave a reply wen u see thisss
He should of said “B*tch, you dead!!”
Well he should have said”Boy you look a lot like Sasuke f**kface,heres what i had been itching to give you for some time now”
@ Elija just google (naruto manga chapter….) to get the chapter, and add (spoiler) at the end to get spoilers. for anime, google (naruto shippuden episode….)
Elija – I read the manga at onemanga.com just like everyone else
I do occasionally get the manga spoilers early from people who put together spoiler vids for youtube but I post those spoilers on this site as soon as they do or I get the chance, since I’m in class many times when the spoiler hits. I’m partial to Fahim’s vids even though I don’t know him.
I used to watch the anime by downloading torrent files from dattebayo.com but they have called it quits, someone posted that new groups will start subbing mid may, if I remember correctly animefart.com was one of the sites that said they will be showing it. Narutofan.com also has plans in the works but I’m not privy to that info, Vered may be able to answer that question better than I can.
@elijah, go to onemanga.com/naruto
Only thing bothering me is, why would Pain need extra bodies if he could copy those technique himself? And why hide if he has 6 people that wouldn’t let anyone go near him? Also, why does he need “assistance” like what Konan stated (a person beside him) when a threat(Naruto, also Jiraiya) comes? And earlier Yahiko Pain said “Good thing He did not found out things earlier. We could have lost.”. Is Nagato disable or something? A Godly figure for perfectly controlling dead bodies but a total handicap individual? Really bothers me….
Naruto to Pain: I’m gonna show you real pain, Believe It!!!!
I don’t think that Itachi would give Naruto an offensive jutsu to use against Sasu-gay (even though this is my first post I know this) I think it is more a defense or immunity to the MS and keep Sasu-gay from controlling the Kyuubi. I think this is the most plausable because Itachi knew Naruto loves Saus-gay as a brother and would most likley give his life to save him. This may end up being what saves his ass against Madara. Well enough for a first post, ya recon?
In the next issue I see the Frog’s with ma and pa pwn the other pains while Naruto concentrates on Pain himself and will just kick his arse using his newly completed mountain top slicing justu that he looks to be able to throw and use at a distance, unlike the rasengan which is a close quarters combat move.
How about Naruto going Kage Bushin no Jutsu maaking a 1,000 clones each in sage mode with the new flying rasen-shuriken and they all hit Pain at the same time….. Now talk about pwning!
seriously though, there have been lots of jokes so far, but what he should really say is:
“What The Fuck You Weak Azz Bitch!!!”
and then five clones are waiting beneath the pein bodies and they jump out and fuuton rasengan all of them, and then the arc is over, so Naruto can go and fight some real pussies like Sasugay.
“kneel before zod!”
Or he could have said:
“I love the smell of PWND LAZR in the morning.”
LOLZ @ suppy
nice ^_^
The post has been updated with new comments and better picks plus a close up of Naruto’s Rasengan for those wondering about that…
“See how I farted on one of your bodies, ‘ttebayo!?”
Lol, Pain looks….pained? All that were left in his mouth were “Uzumaki Naruto”.
@Tinman-About Itachi’s powers that he gave. He actually said “some” meaning its more than one. Also Sasuke didn’t want to wear Itachi’s eyes because they share “completely different point of view”:
Sasuke- Crush Konoha
Itachi- Protect the village-sounds familiar hmmmmm, oh yeah Naruto! =P
@ Migagawe – good comment. “Some” may be a measurement and not a number. I think he gave Naruto the power to extinguish Amaterasu. But all we can do is speculate at this point.
But I’ll say Naruto’s pretty fast, Pain being unable to see him come even though there are five of ‘em looking in different angles.
@ migagwe- the reason is that pain is obviously doing something very dangerous to himself by using his most powerful attack than going right back into fighting, so konan would need to either talk some sense into him or to make sure he doesn’t end up killing himself. Pain uses six bodies because they can be killed or utterly destroyed and he can just bring them back with no problem, plus for a guy who talks a lot about “pain’ using the six bodies allows him to avoid feeling the pain, and with six bodies and each seeing the other’s viewpoint it makes fighting people a hell of a lot easier aka “divide and conquer”… the jiraya not finding out his secret is becasue in all probability pain is hiding in that tower and while he’s broadcasting his chakra, he is pretty much unable to protect himself, in that case jiraya goes over, ultimate rasengans the builiding and destroys nagato. or he would have been aware of the six bodies before hand and would not have had his arm blown up in suprise and would have killed the six bodies anyway with a more complicated trap…
Also, no KAGEBUNSHIN Rasengan this time eh? O_O
i still think itachi gave him the power to control the fox when he completely unleashes it from the seal, and a combination of keeping saskue from unleashing the fox from naruto against his will
he’s fast, but that doesn’t mean he didn’t see him, he probably just couldn’t react in time
to quote rock lee; “it does not matter how good your eyes are if your body can not catch up…”
@ Alec- To me I really think his weak when it comes to physical attacks. ’cause why need bodies if he could hold all those bodies’ jutsu himself, right? Why use real bodies than a Kagebunshin he could easily use than gathering dead ninjas.
Also, Konan never said she’ll discuss or talk to him about how he pushes himself because he could do that right there. What she said was “from now on I will be looking after you” meaning I’ll take care of you. She also did right when Naruto came. Naruto almost understand how Pain works(because Jiraiya’s message was made for Naruto meaning his the one with the kind of understanding that fits to Jiraiya’s message). Konan’s Paper Bunshin was left behind though. “His is as far as I will use my paper bunshin”. Same thing she did to Jiraiya. Like a distraction. The difference is, Naruto’s better than Jiraiya LOL. Killing that douche easily with no Bunshins with him. AWESOME Naruto is AWESOME!
Yea, it still means Naruto’s too fast. Even Pain couldn’t react in time which was my point.
IMO Next Issue
i see flames going up
those huge frogs waiting for battle arnt going to stay still for long
im thinking huge summons by err
summon pain
and then the frogs bring the oill
and hopefully
NARUTO PWNS WITH FIRE ?
(sorry if this was commented on before, but there are too many to read through all of them)
Since its clearer now that Naruto used the rasengan on gay pain…does this mean that Naruto was finally able to produce a rasengan without the help of clones? It seems like he would not have had time to use the kage bunshin, produce the rasengan, and then save tsunade.
Personally I need more proof that was a rasengun, it looks like he just punched the shit out of him!
@iamlegend
initially thats what i thought too, but jeremiah was gracious enough to post a cleaner picture and if you look carefully…you can see the rasengan.
madara=emperor
naruto=luke skywalker
pain=anakin skywalker
jiraiya=obi wan
That’s how I think he is modeling the characters.
Oh yeah, I was thinking, why is hungry ghost like made of machines, what was he when he was living?
Lol, like Anakin Skywalker? Turned into Dart Vader and had some Robot parts lol. I’m sorry but lol its way too far from Star Wars’ storyline. xD
he should have said..”whos next Beaches”
“God schmod. I am the God of Hell FIRE!!!!”
“Thou shalt have no other Gods before me. EAT THIS, ‘ttabayo!”
“Nice of you to dig your own grave before I got here. Now get in it!”
“You look tired, Old Man. How ’bout a nap?”
“Come and taste MY holy host, ‘ttebayo!”
“Ero Sennin didn’t teach you shit about women, did he? Time you learned some MANNERS!”
“You call that a hole? I’ll show you a HOLE, a-hole!!!!”
“This pit ain’t big enough for the six of us.”
“Hey, Ma, no need to cook dinner. I found the flies right here. SUPPERTIME, bitch, come and GET IT!!!!”
“You know, you have to come at me like you’re gonna kill me or you’ll have no chance of success.”
ok…ten alternatives on the theory that quantity is next to painliness.
If nagato is channeling his power through the piercings from a distance . . .wouldn’t the hyugas be able to see the source of the chakra? . . . . Do you all think they are gonna help out in finding nagato?
He should have looked around at the village and then said here’s to you you mother fuckers
IN A RDEFERENCE TO AN OLD COMMENT BY ALEC i’ll go with “i’ll show you real PENIS!!”
suppy, I looked at real good and up close and naruto did hit him with rasengun. So it must be only with the demon cloak and sage mode naruto can do rasengun with one hand and no clones.
“Your first name should be ‘ass’. Don’t get it? I’ll define it!”
I think Naruto should have said this ends now.
luv this issue cant wait 4 the next one.. i luv tsunade!! she’s my fave, she is so brave and compassionate. her luv 4 konoha is so great.. i wana see her in action again!! i feel she that she has some more to show us all!! luv u tsunade hime! kiotsukette mina san!
babyjem has a crush on tsunade
@ suppy and iamlegend- there is a zoom on it in the updated post. It for sure is a Rasengan.
picked up a spoiler…don kno if real…ny ways here goes….
Naruto 431 Spoiler
The chapter opens up to Naruto facing Pain.
Naruto: Let’s do this.
Pain: Very well then, Jinchuuriki.
Summoner Pain steps forth with an array of summons. (Those crazy dogs, a beetle, a bird, a dragon and a panda.)
All the frogs prepare for battle. Tsuande and Anbu are shocked.
Naruto: Gamaken, Gamabunta and Gamakichi NOW!!!
All three toads shoot oil on the summons except the bird.
Gamaken: I missed one. My aim is bad.
Gamabunta: Shut up Gamaken four is good enough.
Naruto: Sage arts! Katon: Wildfire technique!
A powerful eruption of flames and fireballs spew forth from Naruto’s mouth burning the summons to a crisp. Leaving a thick smoke behind.
Pa Toad asunder the bird with a wind technique. The bird explodes into white smoke.
Naruto spots the summoner within the smoke, then he takes off at lighting speed and vanishes in the smoke. The Summoner body is seen flying out the smoke spiraling into the ground with a thud that leaves a billow of dust behind.
That leaves God Realm, Hungry ghost, Hell Realm and Human realm left.
God Pain: You’re tougher than i thought.
Naruto: *thinking This guy is like my kage bunshin jutsu. All replicas, but not real. I know!*
Naruto smirks with a kage bunshin handseal.
Every wounded citizen of konoha looks towards Naruto as a light of hope.
- chapter ends.
link: http://variety-animanga.blogspot.com/2008/12/naruto-431-spoiler.html
“Let’s see who is the greatest The Swayze or Chuck Norris BITCH!!!!” that what Naruto should have said, of course itgoes without saying Naruto is the Swayze.
Yep it is Rasegan checkout this picture of it.
http://www.narutocentral.com/manga.php?s=naruto&c=430&p=15
I don’ think Pain introduced himself to Naruto, or made one of those I am god comments. Its a sign he will either lose badly or of will own horridly. Oh and this might just be me but doesn’t the rasengun look similar to Konohamaru’s in size?
“Adriannnn!!! Adriannnn!”
btw- how COOL is that?? naruto can finally do a one handed rasengan. this is a pretty monumental step for Naruto.
also- is there a time limit to how long Naruto can stay in sage mode when he’s in the regular world? i can’t remember….
I agree @kyoto
well konohamaru is little . . .of course it’s smaller. hahaha
“Mmmm! Goddamn, Jimmie! This is some serious gourmet shit! Usually, me and Vince would be happy with some freeze-dried Taster’s Choice right, but he springs this serious GOURMET shit on us! What flavor is this?”
such a typical goku entrance….I FUCKIN LOVED IT….that was FUCKIN AWESOMENESS….although….i am kind of hopein it doesnt follow dbz proticol….meaning…goku always whoops ass in the beginning…er go “nappa”…..er go “freeza” at 10 percent power….but than the real fight happens..and he just barely manages to stay on par…until a miraculous event happens and goku uses a trump card…in narutos case “kyuubi” and then he wins by that last hope…hmmm….please naruto….i hope u have found a way to make the sage mode longer…cuz with out sage mode…would u be saying that bold statement…”im gonna finish you”
on the subject of what naruto should have said, maybe he could have said….”now it is time for you to feel real pain”…….~Avid~
Was it ever stated how long he could stay in sage mode?
Here’s a good One;” Uzumaki is no more, I am become Death” oh yeah, what about “I’m sorry did I brake your concentration?” or simply…”I shall smite thee”.
What would be really cool is if naruto had a new jutsu up his sleeve,which could obviously own pain. Pain is a jackass plain and straight LOL.
Won’t Sasuke be pissed at Pain since he deprived Sasuke of destroying the village?
I think Naruto will beat the shit out of Pain and he’ll run away, and then Sasuke will kill the real one.
naruto: ” i know what is pain. now its your turn!”
it is rasengan. naruto is going to be killed by sasugay after this fight. thats what is going to happen in 431
you know, kishi’s drawings are not that good this week. they weren’t that finish. i think some pages are just the drafts
naruto has used rasengan. once naruto kills all pains then sasugay comes and kills naruto i have seen this happening in advert
The drawing where Naruto rasenganed hungry ghost was pretty good I think.
but he didn’t. he rasenganed laser head.
this episode was awesome in every way. Kakashi must be alive other wise they wouldn’t have shown him exclusively in his own panel.
naruto: ” the power of swayze is within me!”
or
“yo name is pain right? then taste your own name you bitch!”
@SMP, that’s pretty fake for me. i don’t think naruto can do a fire release jutsu or other than wind. i think if the\ey are going to do the toad oil flame bullet, pa would do the fire release
if the 3 big summons would do an oil release then someone would add a fire release, that’s an awesomeness fireworks to open the new year
he calls it a sage art…not sure if that is the same as a jutsu
@glen i guess you can use icon since outlaw360 is using even though i had it…im going to keep this one till something better comes out
why isn’t it showing my icon?
Sasuke will go blind before the fight with naruto LOL
naruto will shout…. MATHA FAKAH… PIERCING REMOVER JUTSU!!!! BOOM… now your uncool.. MATHA FAKAH!!!!
It usually takes a while for an icon to show up. I think it takes a little longer when your first changing it. As for our icons they are different. My icon came from the scan of one of the spoiler pictures. Since the scan was incomplete I was unable to capture the mouth and choose to focus in on the face. Hm, though I think I just got a little steamed… Our Icons are different enough for people to tell the difference.
ok straight up that episode was too CRAZY the king.. wait the GOD OF AWESOMENESS IS BACK they need to take down the pic wid gaara up the top cz the god of awesomeness is back. naruto shoulda said “IM GONNA PWN U PEIN” OR “IM GONNA PWN U BELIEVE IT!!”
this maybe out of no where but, has anybody noticed that tobi has his left eye covered while danzo has his right covered…
Naruto shouldve said like tropic thunder, GET SOME!!
man the only good that can come out of danzo and madara being the same person is…we will be able to see naruto paste madara right after pain…..since they are all at the same place…madara obviously is not gonna take pains defeat lightly
Its noticed. There are few Danzo/Tobi theories around because of it.
“Pain!!! Your time has come to an end!!” for naruto saying to pain
hello again
Wow!! my first post here guys I’ve been reading for a few weeks now and this issue was truly amazing…. I have a feeling though that the next chapters will have to do alot with what happened to konan, nagato n yahiko…. So we might have to wait around to see some more cool stuff . (I hope not though) but hopefully they do get to show what happened to the orphans after jiraya left some sweet stuff hopefully
About that scroll.. Well we dont know that how naruto can use the sage arts without the frogs, i mean how can he draw natural energy while in sage mode.. We have seen naruto changing his kage bunshin to something else right? so that scroll might be his kage bunshin drawing natural energy… Or am I a complete idiot to think that? =)
About that scroll.. Well we dont know that how naruto can use the sage arts without the frogs, i mean how can he draw natural energy while in sage mode.. We have seen naruto changing his kage bunshin to something else right? so that scroll might be his kage bunshin drawing natural energy… Or am I a complete idiot to think that? =)
Naruto 431 Spoiler
The chapter opens up to Naruto facing Pain.
Naruto: Let’s do this.
Pain: Very well then, Jinchuuriki.
Summoner Pain steps forth with an array of summons. (Those crazy dogs, a beetle, a bird, a dragon and a panda.)
All the frogs prepare for battle. Tsuande and Anbu are shocked.
Naruto: Gamaken, Gamabunta and Gamakichi NOW!!!
All three toads shoot oil on the summons except the bird.
Gamaken: I missed one. My aim is bad.
Gamabunta: Shut up Gamaken four is good enough.
Naruto: Sage arts! Katon: Wildfire technique!
A powerful eruption of flames and fireballs spew forth from Naruto’s mouth burning the summons to a crisp. Leaving a thick smoke behind.
Pa Toad asunder the bird with a wind technique. The bird explodes into white smoke.
Naruto spots the summoner within the smoke, then he takes off at lighting speed and vanishes in the smoke. The Summoner body is seen flying out the smoke spiraling into the ground with a thud that leaves a billow of dust behind.
That leaves God Realm, Hungry ghost, Hell Realm and Human realm left.
God Pain: You’re tougher than i thought.
Naruto: *thinking This guy is like my kage bunshin jutsu. All replicas, but not real. I know!*
Naruto smirks with a kage bunshin handseal.
Every wounded citizen of konoha looks towards Naruto as a light of hope
Pain to Naruto:May the force be with you!
Naruto when he looks to Pain:Frogs,I think we aren´t in Konoha anymore(Wizard of Oz);
Naruto to Pain:I’m had it with this motherfuc### Pains in my motherfuc### town.
Naruto to Pain:Live is like a bowl of Ramen:you never know what you’re gonna get.
we could put music references:
you’re like a complete unknow
after i rasengan you
you’ll roll like a rolling stone.
While he’s powning some pains:
I can´t get no satisfaction…
Now,a different joke:
Nike condomns:Just do it!
Swayze+Norris=very damaged kid-Nwayze
Swayze way!
“Say hello to my little rasengan” – scarface reference
The ones who are saying Naruto is gonna get killed,note this:tthe spoilers come from Japan;so don´t go to China(by other words,wtf are you saying,freakin retards).
@real! i think those were just jokes. killin naruto is ending kishi’s works. that’s pretty impossible.’
about your spoiler? hahaha! FAKE!
I can’t wait till Naruto goes Samarai and starts using a Katana also. The slicing power of wind element added to the sword would pwn. One swing of the blade and his enemy is cut into. Awesomeness. And he does not have to touch you with the blade to slice you with wind.
Who would like to see rasengan shoved down the tip of the sword with the wind element after pinning Sasugay to the wall in the much the same way as Sasugay did to Orochimaru?
happy new year! its new year’s eve here!
here’s another one….
Naruto to pain-
“Do you ever feel tired? have you ever felt that being a god is just too mcuh work? ever felt a need to just shoot lazers evrywhere? Is your name Pain?….THen This product Is JUST for YOU!!!
we here at uzumaki konoha corp. feel that douchebags like pain deserve better for their Supersized ego and pointless sissyness! Just one week with our system and you’ll feel better in No-time!
Just ask this young Pain…*walks over to pwnd LZErhead* (LZRHEAD speaks commercial style!)- I used to have a nagging ache in my head which made me go crazy sometimes….i felt the constant need to shoot pointless missiles with my head. But after a second to signing up with Naruto’s One second treatment, my headache is gone!(Naruto Adds- And So is the rest of Your HEAD!”)
For more information just call 666666-NARUTO-PWNED-PAIN
join now and we”ll throw in a complete “I am a PAIN in My ASS” headband completely FREE! Sure to make ur servant/girlfriend *COUGH…Konan*kick you in the nuts! So what do ya say buddy! wanna join in!
Tendou Pain(All Excited and ready to piss like a pussy)- how much does it cost???
Naruto- well…folks! ussually it costs one peek at the hokage’s uhum…assets, but A special offer right Now! If you’ve completely destroyed my home village along with killing one oor two of my teachers! You get it ABSOLUTELY FREE!!!! so hurry now and call 666666-NARUTO-PWNED-PAIN!
Tendou Pain- All 6 of me would like to sign up!
Naruto- Good for you!
*COMMERCIAL ENDS*
*SO DOES THE REST OF PAIN*
HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL OF YOU!
@DemoniCSage – Good point. It would appear that we are heading to a showdown with Negato and Konan (remember they always travel in pairs?). And what better to pull him out of hiding than Naruto wiping his @ss with his Six Paths.
I don’t think that Nagato will show his face for now! Maybe Naruto anihilates all realms and then Kishi will show Nagato’s angry face, observing from far away of the fight. Maybe his technique looks the same as that one Itachi and Kisame used to fight Kakashi and Gai during Gaara’s rescue.
For now here’s a list of things that I wanna see:
1) Naruto cast a wind based long range justu;
2) Naruto casting frog’s stomach summon;
3) Naruto use that one schroll technique;
4) Sasuke watch Naruto kick Pein’s ass;
5) Hinata hanging out with Naruto and Sakura jealous.
For future I expect:
1) More about Nagato and Rinnegan. I think some history about eye tachniques (sharingan, byakugan, rinnegan, etc.) appearance could be good at this time.
Itachi’s return!
2) Sasuke being trained by Killer Bee. If possible, every member of his party.
3) Naruto going on a jouney like Jiraya. But along Frog Grandpa and 2 other from Konoha – Hinata and Lee could be good.
4) Some new chars. An old friend of Minato arriving at the Village could be fine.
5) One fight: Sharingan X Byakugan
6) More about Gai
7) Naruto training to use another element
did naruto us a clone for that rasengan he used on shitbag pain? don’t think he would’ve had the time. think this means he doesn’t need one in sage mode? sweeet
Naruto – “let me rip those black rods out of your mouth!”
did someone say that already..
@Makumbaum – Add Naruto revealing mystery the power Itachi forced into him.
I hope it is some kind of resistance to genjutsu, because Naruto has always been weak against it. Naruto vs Genjutsu is like a cat chasing a laser pointer; he can not seem to resist them. If he had full control of the nine tails he could use its power to break him out of a genjutsu, just like Killer Bee did against Sasuke’s Tsukuyomi.
damnit- flip flop those two words
“Add Naruto revealing the mystery power Itachi forced into him.”
That’s better. I wish there was an edit function on these posts.
@Glen- Remember? Pa thought him some sage arts? Obviously that includes jutsus and stuff we didn’t get to see. Also, what would be the use of the scroll on his back? Jiraiya had them to be able to release some jutsus he wanted to do. The spoiler stating Naruto releasing some new tough jutsu is not far from possible although theat spoiler SMP gave might have been a fraud, but not too fraud like the other spoilers. And Happy NEW YEAR!
@DemoniCSage- Well, I really think the flashbacks happen when the character’s about to die, if you were talking about Yahiko, Nagato and Konan’s past.
Although I have a big theory about Yahiko and Nagato. I really think they had a big battle with someone. Here’s my theory. Just a theory so dont think that it really would happen lol:
Yahiko dies because he was the most aggressive one, getting Nagato to realize that true Pain’s different than what Jiraiya talked to him about. This battle also made Nagato unable to physically fight, therefore, he looked and found out how to use his Rinnengan properly.(Obviously Konan’s the Sakura or Rin type back then. They had to protect her) Being unable to let go of Yahiko, learning this new skill – copied from some opponent or tribe through his eyes (chakra receivers) – he first used it on Yahiko and it worked. Then, he later learned that the one with Rinnegan could use the so called “6 Paths” and unlocked the secrets of his powers due to madness and ambition that he thinks is just. Also the big opponent I think was Madara. Lol. Knowing akatsuki they like backstabbing each other eh?
Also, I think the only thing that Hell Pain can revive are the ones with his chakra receiver.
@Redshota- Its weird though. I think Naruto’s more on speed than strength which is good. Compare to Jiraiya in Hermit mode: GINORMOUS RASENGAN but was easily dodged by Pain while Naruto used a normal concentrated rasengan and Pain could not react and all he can say was his name. “…Uzumaki Naruto..” lol weak sauce
Why the hell narutos cloak is red and black flames… is that stupid or what? some kind of amakary (that flame technique) fetish?
in cosplay store they sells narutos cloak in differend colors. does he going to change it or what?
Lol, I think the one in cosplay’s the one for the hokage Naruto. That one has collars. =( Naruto’s cape w/o collars is a NO!
Lol, I think the one in cosplay’s the one for the hokage Naruto. That one has collars. =( Naruto’s cape w/o collars is a NO! Its like combined Jiraiya and Minato. Jinato cape.
I think that the power Itachi gave him was to extinguish Amaterasu. Cause one way or another, Naruto could learn with Keller Bee how to control Kyubii. But Amaterasu is a jutsu impossible to defense of. I bet Killer Bee will trains Sasuke, so the Uchiha will stop with senseless fights. After this, Naruto will have a small encouter with him. Then our hero will get some tip to controll Kyubii. I don’t believe that Bee will stay with him for a long time. Remember that Naruto always learn jutsus by his ways – control Kyubii will be no exception.
I hope to see some friend of Yondaime arrive at the village. And if possible, to be someone strong. Naruto could get attached to him by some means… But I think it will take time to our hero discover that he is Minato’s son. I predict that from now on, Kishi will write more about Gai, Hyuuga clan, Rinnegan, Sakura, Kakashi and Ino. Well… He’s getting obvious about Kakashi needing some training. But I have to say: the fight between Kakashi and Kakusu was very good at the anime. Kakashi’s animation and movements were pretty good. Those scenes revitalized our expectatives about Kakashi.
But I wonder… Witch one is the best: open some inner gates or Sage Mode? Witch do you prefer?
@Makumbaum- Sasuke being trained by the eight tails? o___O
That’s highly unusual. Naruto maybe but Sasuke? He’d be training everyone except Sasuke for almost putting him to death. Even though I’d say Eight tails was highly impressive slipping through Madara and two more akatsukis. We should expect more from Naruto having the strongest beast.
I probally read wrong and I can already fell the flames but diddnt akatsuki try to give sasuke a bijuu
Lol mahn, Kakashi aint weak. His generation’s just getting surpassed. Also, that be pretty weak as a storyline having Minato’s “old friend” in the village. That’s like the incarnation of Jiraiya. >.>
Naruto to Pain:Make Love,not war;
Screw you and screw U2!
And you’re buying your starway to Heaven!
@Chris F- Lol nope. They just gave him the task to capture a Jinchurikii.
@makumbuam
there are pros and cons to both gates and sage mode it would be hard decision and doesnt kakashi know how to uncock the gates he should have
he should have said “shut the fuck up” to all the people who are telling him what to say or “I can say whatever the fuck i want to bitch”
“stop me if you’ve heard this one before….”
Also, someone said Naruto can’t hold sage mode for long. Note this. They were trying to make Pa and Ma as his charger but the kyubii won’t let them. So for now, while he can’t control the kyubii yet, he trained gathering natural energy moving. Pa said “Its like looking right and left at the same time”. Deja vu? Yes. A clone’s hiding somewhere or Naruto himself is gathering the enrgy w/o moving. But its more likely the clone. And notice this:
-Pain has 6 of him and Naruto can make a 1000 of him
-They have really good resemblance
-They both need more than one body to perform unfathomable jutsus
-They both have a source of power: Rinnegan=Pein, Kyubii=Naruto.
Weird..~
this is about the spoilers…A PANDA???? YOU MUST BE KIDDING…
btw, happy new year….
Well… My theory about Bee is because Sasuke will see Naruto’s fight and realize himself as a weakling. So he will need someone to teach him more tricks. I don’t think Madara will be his tutor. Sasuke doesn’t trust him. So there are two candidates: Kisame and Bee. But Kisame uses water element. If Sasuke will learn another nature manipulation, then it goes with it. But since Bee uses lightning element, he would be the best choice. Also, there’s the fact that Sasuke acknowledged Bee’s power and know that cannot win against him. That would be a good way to make Sasuke understands better a Jinchuuriki’s lonely feelings. i don’t believe that Sasuke will became good or bad. I have a feeling that he will be a character that roams around. Bee wants to walk around too. So… That’s only a theory…
But the fact that Sasuke will need to became stronger is clear. In fact, characters training to become more powerful is the main point in mangas. Remember where all of us were a few episodes before Goku shows his new Supersayadin shape. Everybory was excited to see the fight!!! The same happened when Luffy lost to CP9 and showed us Gear Second. The feeling that drives everyone of us to continue watching and reading is to know the evolution of our beloved characters. Years before we’ve never dreamed of watching Thundercats train to use new weapons. Saint Seya, Samurai Warriors, Yu-Yu Hakusho and especially Dragon Ball were the ones that turn this history style popular. And we love this style!
So… Sasuke lost to Itachi, to Bee… And is not as strong as Madara. Or is not as strong as he used to think. Let’s wait and see how he will became stronger. And how’s Naruto will beat his ass.
Thing is, the story’s focus is on Naruto. I don’t see why Bee would train Sasuke. Bee’s more like, “I don’t give a crap on anything. So get lost.” The only person that can bug people ’til they say yes would be Naruto. Sasuke would just be like, “Yea, whatever.”
Plus, it’s not because they have the same element he has to train him. Kakashi trained Naruto even though his element’s lightning while Naruto’s wind.
And of course there will be new characters. The one Bee’s brother sent. Those three people. One with big boobs, one with flat tits and a guy who thinks to deep. They seem interesting. =)
so you’re basically comparing Sasugay to great anime characters,Makumbaum.Come on,Sasuke is dead;Naruto in Sage mode would kick his ass just with a look.
madara will train sasuke, doesnt matter if sasuke trusts him because his training is important or madara and sasuke will fight together n try to kick narutos ass………when theyre all weak and tired kabuto will come out of no where and kill all of them LOL
naruto –
“you are going to pay for my ramen !!!” or
“not blinking really is a pain!!!”
LOL YEAH….no but seriously. Sasuke doesn’t care who trains him as long as he gets what he wants. The on his way to destroy Konoha would be Naruto. Also, remember Orichimaru? Even though he knew that one day he’ll try to get his body he still didn’t care. Trust is really no big deal with Sasuke.
naruto should have said: “My name is Uzumaki Naruto; You killed my (god)father…prepare to die!”
HAPPY NEW YEAR TO EVERYONE!!!!!!!
“You know how much work this gives me as a future hokage?!?!?”
He Should have said….”A$$ Raping Time…BI@7CH!!”
Would you rather have him say ” I’m going to beat you! Believe It!”
xD
Naruto 431 Spoiler
The chapter opens up to Naruto facing Pain.
Naruto: Let’s do this.
Pain: Very well then, Jinchuuriki.
Summoner Pain steps forth with an array of summons. (Those crazy dogs, a beetle, a bird, a dragon and a panda.)
All the frogs prepare for battle. Tsuande and Anbu are shocked.
Naruto: Gamaken, Gamabunta and Gamakichi NOW!!!
All three toads shoot oil on the summons except the bird.
Gamaken: I missed one. My aim is bad.
Gamabunta: Shut up Gamaken four is good enough.
Naruto: Sage arts! Katon: Wildfire technique!
A powerful eruption of flames and fireballs spew forth from Naruto’s mouth burning the summons to a crisp. Leaving a thick smoke behind.
Pa Toad asunder the bird with a wind technique. The bird explodes into white smoke.
Naruto spots the summoner within the smoke, then he takes off at lighting speed and vanishes in the smoke. The Summoner body is seen flying out the smoke spiraling into the ground with a thud that leaves a billow of dust behind.
That leaves God Realm, Hungry ghost, Hell Realm and Human realm left.
God Pain: You’re tougher than i thought.
Naruto: *thinking This guy is like my kage bunshin jutsu. All replicas, but not real. I know!*
Naruto smirks with a kage bunshin handseal.
Every wounded citizen of konoha looks towards Naruto as a light of hope
LOL @ domosenpai and the princess bride reference.
would’ve been kool if he went the ghost rider/soulja boy way
*points at pain* “YOU!!” *clones sneak up on all 6 pains from behind*
sasukes a faggot and a wasted prik
this may have already been said (i skipped alot of comments) but the reason Naruto is so fast is stated in those Kishi interviews. he says:
“By the time Naruto fights Pein he will have fully mastered all of Jiraiya’s jutsu except ‘Frog Mode’ (meaning it isn’t perfect yet) and he has mastered three of the fourth’s jutsu, definately the fuuton rasen shuriken, and i suspect that he’s mastered or at least learned to use Hiraishin, the teleporty jutsu.
Another thing it says is that this battle will be “The Battle of the Beasts” which sounds highly explosive and utterly awesome.
Hope i’ve got you exited for the next few issues.
Glad to be of service
And let me say this for the Millionth time.
Naruto. Can’t. Learn. To. Control. Kyuubi. From. Killer. Bee!!!!
For one simple reason.
Naruto only had the aggressive, masculine, instinctive, animalistic Yang chakra sealed in him, so his Kyuubi is just the bad side of the Kyuubi.
Killer Bee has yin and yang, so his beast is neutral, and therefore a hell of a lot more docile than the Kyuubi as it has the Yin chakra to balance it.
Therefore Naruto CANNOT. CONTROL. THE. KYUUBI. BY. LEARNING. FROM. KILLER. BEE!!!!
THE. ONLY. WAY. TO. CONTROL. IT. IS. WITH. SHARINGAN. AND. IF. NARUTO. GET’S. SHARINGAN. I. WILL. CRY. MYSELF. TO. SLEEP. BECAUSE. NARUTO. GETTING. SHARINGAN. WOULD. BE. GAY.
Glad to be of more service.
The reason why Minato left yin is for Naruto to do it himself. That’s what Jiraiya said… o__O
it’s really douchie to think that sharingan can control the kyuubi.
I think kakashi used his eye to suck up as much of the blast as he could…
and that Naruto should have said “Nice fu*king clonens” (beetlejuice style) and after he hit lazerhaed said “I can make a 1000 sages punk”
as one of the previous fans wrote….i really hope that naruto gets with hinata..i think shes better for him…although i would hate to have hinata mad and she start using byakagun or however its spelled…i mean those veins or wrinkles around the eyes are pretty creepy…hahahah ..~Avid~
not to mention…..naruto could never say he was someplace else…..all she would do was use that eye technique to locate him….”senerio”
hinata – NARUTO!!! WHERE HAVE U BEEN!! ITS BEEN 3 HRS SINCE U LEFT TO GET SOME MILK!!!!
naruto – oh hey babe..heh eheh..a funny thing happed on the way to the market…a group of sound ninjas came and tried to rob this little old lady for her groceries.
hinata – hmm u wouldnt happen to be lyin to me NARUTO …HUH?!?!
naruto – no no..of course not babe.
(hinata starts her eye technique)
hinata – do u really think u can fool me with these eyes….i see EVERYTHING U DO GOD DAMMIT NARUTO!!!! u stopped by shikumaru and fuzzy brows place and went to the strip club…..I SAW EVERYTHING…and u can sleep on the sofa tonight MR. HOKAGE!!!
HAHAHAHAHA ~AVID~
Best Chapter I’ve read in a long (and I emphasize on long) time. But, something bugs me. During Jiraya’s battle with Pain, the Pain bodies can all read each other’s mind (point of view), which enables them to avoid close calls. But Naruto nailed the Demon Realm with his rasengan (and boy was it the best moment ever, nearly wet myself with joy), shouldn’t Demon realm be able to see that coming. The only two possibilities that I can think of would be that Pein didn’t care, demon realm will act similar during his battle with Kakashi (came back from the dead multiple number of times till he nailed kakashi) or the sharing views require chakra and he was running out of them due to Shinri Tensei. But in either case, sweet Chapter, especially the rasengan.
*Jeremiah, well, I saw another version of the manga at onemanga.com where the last phrase of Naruto was “Let’s Finish this once and for all”. Not sure if this will help, but yeah.
This is what i think…..Naruto has been taught a bunch of sage arts (which might be a tad different from a ‘jutsu’ in the sense that since he is not using his chakra to do any of it, he could transcend his elemental restrictions and kinda do use any of elemental techniques just by gathering the right kind of chakra from around him ). There is a long drawn out fight between ours truly and Nagato which ends in Nagato getting overwhelmed by Narutos speed,power and array of techs….
MAJOR SPOILER: DON’T READ IF YOU DON’T WANT TO BE SPOILED.
Naruto does not need the frogs to be in sage mode, he has his clones to collect natural energy way faster then the frogs can. Also his body can hold a lot of chakra so it will be able to withstand the amount of energy coming in. Expect a huge Shuriken Rasengan on Pain. Jiraiya is not dead either. Body was never recovered.
so the anonymous says…..
but in either case, this is going to be one of the most epic battles in Naruto history. And it does look like he can do rasengan by himself (without clones). But I could be wrong.
*and by the way, it is not shuriken rasengan, it’s Fuuton/Wind Style, Rasin Shuriken.
Rasengan with no clone was one of the best things about 431, thats a huge deal in my eyes. I hope pain hasn’t put rods in Jiraiya’s body, to use against naruto.
Naruto using fire jutsu?! Are you kidding?! That’s a scene that I’d like to see, but I think it’s a fake spoiler. I don’t think that gather natural chakra means that he can use every nature manipulation. In a sense Naruto have a long way to go with wind jutsu. I’m a Naruto fan, but I don’t think he has mastered wind element in a way near Sasuke’s lightning. Sasuke can do almost everything with lightning. Naruto has a powerful wind attack… Even better than Sasuke’s… But he cannot control wind like Sasuke controls Thunder. Aul attack doesn’t means he could make a wind shield or slice the wind like a sword. Sasuke can make ligthning shurikens and send lightning worms over the ground.
I hope Naruto have truly mastered wind element after Sage training. Imagine if release Kyubii after master wind element!!!! This could be awesome!!! But I guess Sage training is a little different from the tradicional ones. I bet he’ll be able to use strange techniques like Black Toad Stomach summon… I predict that Naruto will beat Sasuke using other means than a great elemental chakra manipulation.
But… Beat Nagato now could be very disapointing. He’s weak after that big strike on Konoha. If Nagato got killed now, will be a sudden end like was Kakuzu and Hidan’s fight… Like Itachi’s match with Sasuke… I wanna see, at least, a plain and clean fight… With both Naruto and Nagato in their best shape! No more coward fights like Itachi’s!!! It hurts the pride of those who love the chars…
first post I believe of the new year. Excellent review of the latest Naruto chapter.
As for the line that Naruto should of said I have a few. So here go.
” Who up next? ”
” Pain perpare to feel pain you never felt before, REVENGE !!! ”
” Believe this Pain, your plans end here now !!!! ”
” Pain, your Plans end here now !!!! Believe it !!!!
” Sadly Pain this won’t end how you believe it will “
IM SORRY BUT THIS HAS TO BE SAID!!! Jiraiya’s body wasnt recovered because he is in another freaking country, where the ydont hold him in that high enough regard to search for his behind!!!
He should have said, “…the balls are inert…”
i was surfing through and found this
“Just a reminder: The next manga chapter (431) is going to be released in two weeks (The week from January 11 – 18, 2009)”
in http://narutomanga-soletuti.blogspot.com/
Does anyone know better
or he shud’ve said
“whoops….”
Something really bugs me… Why does the supposed to be “most” powerful doujutsu (eye technique) the RINNEGAN (pain) follows orders from a SHARINGAN (madara)???
What does MADARA has or what he did he do that trumps even PAIN (he used shinra tensei for the first time in order to join akatsuki – PAIN must have been pushed that far)…
What are the other powers of the eternal Mangekyou Sharingan?
If it can control the almost limitless chakra of the KyUUBI, can it possibly has taken control of the NAGATO/real PAIN?
Pain as the puppet… how ironic…
@pinoy: experience….
@everyone else: do you seriously believe on the Panda Summon??? what’s that like? like kung-fu-panda???
@pinoy: but i do have a different theory….i believe madara took pain (when he was a child) and then made him his puppet….that way, no matter how less powerful he is than pain, he is always the boss….
(like how zabuza had haku….who was stronger than zabuza himself)
p.s. i didn’t know zabuza was after madara!!!
I just thought about something. The spoiler post above, its fake. In the spoiler the frogs hit each of the summons with an attack and they disappear. Naruto refers to them as Kage Bushins. However that is a contradiction to an earlier chapter. When the dog was hit from before by the interrogation team it just grew an extra head. There was no disappearance what so ever. In other words unless something else is going on the spoiler above for 431 is false.
Also Happy New Year
I have no comment on the clearly fake spoiler, but i would like to post another suggestion for what he could say:
“One Down!!! Five to go!!!”
“How do you like them apples!? and by ‘apples’ i mean Rasengans! In you face!!!”
“Calling Doctor Naruto!!!
Prescription: Death,
Diagnosis: Rasengan!!!”
“All of your heads! Are goin’ up HIS Ass!!!” points to God Pein
Or he could have shouted:
“GARBAGE DAY!!!”
and then made pein eat a Rasen Shuriken
LMAO @ elasticatedninja “THE. ONLY. WAY. TO. CONTROL. IT. IS. WITH. SHARINGAN. AND. IF. NARUTO. GET’S. SHARINGAN. I. WILL. CRY. MYSELF. TO. SLEEP. BECAUSE. NARUTO. GETTING. SHARINGAN. WOULD. BE. GAY.”
Naruto shouldve shout “HAPPY NEW YEAR” LOL
HAPPY NEW YEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
NARUTO IS THE MOST AWESOME MANGA IN THE WORLD!!!! I HOPE IT NEVER ENDS BECAUSE I”LL PROBABLY KILL MYSLEF…. I READ 431 MANGA’S IN 4 days…..
Well well well, Granny Tsunade still alive. Naruto is far from over. HOly crap, how much stronger is Naruto gonna get? i mean he still have to face off Saskuke, and Mandara, Im sure mandara is twice as strong compare to pain. If naruto is already suspass the rest of the oldies then how the hell is gonna be able to fight mandara, i cant think of any other special training by anyone else. Actually i take that back, when they got the information about Konoha, he was in the middle of his training, soo i am guessing there are more to sage training and i wonder what Itachi gave naruto…. now i am really curious what the author got up his sleeve. Tsunade will die by the hand of Mandara, Kakashi will die by the hand of saskuke and Naruto will be Hokage and serie end. Game over with naruto.
He should say
Look Like game over for you.
Hi I’m a newbie and I wanted to post an alternate PREDICTION for 431.
So I think Kishi won’t actually start it with the current fight, he will start with a naruto-jiraiya flashback or updates on several people and groups of people such as Danzo, Team Gai, Sasuke’s group (Team Hawk), Madara, and I bet Zetsu is somewhere watching too. Last Person is Konan who reaches real Nagato then notices she was followed by a Naruclone. Then we go to the fight, Naruto exhausted and out of Sage Mode,a frog comments that Sage mode should have lasted longer but Naruto is grinning and Pain wonders why and then says his old Now you will feel Pain! and thats the end. so what do you guys think? one other possibility is we have one chapter of the fight then the next chapter is like this.
I think the idea of naruto getting the sharingan is pretty cool
lol
“He should have had a V8!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”
or
“U feeling lucky punk?????!!!!!!”
or
“Im gonna finish this!!!!………believe it!!!!!!!”
or
“Its time……………”
or
“I haven’t felt this violated since that weekend I spent in Neverland ranch.”
or
“Get ready Pain I’m gonna do to you what we did to Makully Culkin in My Girl.”
-take your pick……buen ano nuevo!!!!!!!!!!!!
omg my ship sails tonight so i wont have the internet to read 431
AAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH
hai hai, when is it coming out?
@pinoy- Like Pain said, it could be possible that Madara took them in when they were young. There’s three thing he might have done that made Pain respect him as a leader:
- Typical Madara: Hypnotizer, tricky Uchiha that made Pain believe that they share the same point of view
- Like what Jiraiya did: trained them, and brain-washed and introduce them “real peace” and took care of them as if he really cares about them.( This might have occurred on the death of Yahiko and Madara caused it. But knowing the power of rinnnegan, he appeared to be a “better-teacher-than-Jiraiya” and taught Nagato how to use it. Although HE NEVER TAUGHT HIM “EVERYTHING” THAT HE KNEW.)
- Or he’s holding something important that if Pain does not do what he’s suppose to be doing, Pain will loose it.
@makumbaum – You can’t say that. And saying you’re a Naruto fan does not seem to be true. You always say Sasuke’s good and he’ll train to be better. And you can’t say that Naruto has no perfect control and no new jutsus. Personally I believe that he has new jutsus and improved his wind manipulation. How? Remember when he practiced when “Pa” was sleeping? That’s a new kind of technique in sage mode. Also, “Pa” said “I’ll teach you sage arts”. Kishi never showed us how he used the arts. That’s why we were all like WTF?! when he used no clones using concentrated rasengan.
We have seen two techniques he has right now:
- Teleportation? Cause Pain couldn’t even react.
- A rasengan w/o clones.
So, why go WTF?! if he uses fire tech.? Even though its a fraud spoiler it is still possible.
I definitely think he has water element too, cause everytime he goes unconscious, he swims in the water and the kyubii on bubbles. Also, having the kyubii inside him makes him one with the kyubii. What do I mean? It means the Kyubii’s nature will make him be able to manipulate it if he’s able to control it. But I believe that the YIN chakra of the kyubii’s on the scroll Jiraiya’s been keeping.
And about Jiraiya and Minato appearing behind Naruto, IT IS NOT THEIR FREAKIN GHOSTS!!!!! Its just showing that Naruto makes people remember them. Jiraiya’s body’s not found and in Naruto Orichirmaru can’t use the Minato when he was trying to revive all the Hokages to destroy Konoha. =)
HAPPY NEW YEAR GUYSSSSS!!
naruto will probly use a clone to make rasenga shuriken so it want hurt the original body but just kill the shadow clone
Well… My point is: have a super powerful wind jutsu doesn’t mean that Naruto has more control over nature manipulation. The way Sasuke put lightning in his swords, send shockwaves below the ground or make lightning shurikens, prove that his nature manipulation is better. I hope to see Naruto making wind barriers and somethings like those, but also I think that now is not the time. If he trained 2 years with Jiraya and didn’t learn what’s nature manipulation… Why in a short time he could master all of it??? If he learn evolution is this fast… Then the manga will not last long!!! And everybody here don’t want this!
I think that Naruto could beat Sasuke. But by his own means, like he always have done. He always had a few jutsus and always have won using his criativity. That’s the way Naruto is! Maybe this Sage Mode could reveal more jutsus, but definitly I’m not waiting another nature element… He need to mastery more about wind. And for this, not only a powerful attack is sufficient. He need to use weak, but useful jutsus. So he could beat enemies using his creativity. And this includes Sasuke!!! For example… What Naruto will do if the enemy became invisible like when he fought Jiraya? He will need a simple jutsu to beat the foe. The best step to became strong, seems Naruto had done: be faster and use rasengan with one hand! And that was amazing!
Another nature manipalation could be good… I bet on fire… Cause if the anime use folklore, every Nine Tails that I’ve saw in animes has used fire techniques – sometimes illusionary ones. That element could be useful to creates a competition with Sasuke too. But thinking that Naruto is the opposite of Sasuke, water could be a good choice too. Naruto could do ice jutsu, using wind plus water. By the other side… If we think that Naruto always beat enemies using creativity, probably earth jutsu would be more appropriate. Hide under the ground… Kick the ground making some barriers… Earth opens many possibilities!
About the fact that Orochimaru has trained Sasuke… I think Sasuke has done that cause he used to have a seal on him. I don’t think Madara will train him if he doesn’t trust Madara. Especially because now he’s not alone (Hawk Team) and cause Itachi didin’t use to trust Madara either. I bet Kisane or Bee. Sasuke can inprove raikon or learn suiton.
I also don’t think that Naruto will learn teleport skill now. Cause if he uses it, Kishi will have to focus the history on Naruto. And he said that he will work on other chars. I wonder if right now those could be Sai, Danzou, Yamato, Tsunade and Kakashi. I bet on Danzou’s rebelion and Tsunade not being Hokage anymore. Maybe Danzou uses the fact that the village was destroyed to became Hokage. On the next six months I predict more about ANBU Root and Rinnegan. While talking about ANBU we could see some secrets about Uchiha Clan and Minato’s Clan. I hope to see a match between Sharingan and Byakuugan.
this was the best chapter ever i cant wait to the next one!!!!
((((((((freedom to gaza and palastin)))))))
@Makumbaum-Lol, all i can say is, before, he never knew he could use clones to train faster. It was Kakashi that thought of it.
I think I just read it again for the billionth time, and now that I can speak again, I will. ^.^
First, to sound like a complete drunken ass: See? I told you! Hahahahaha. Then to remind you what I’ve said (because SO much has been said by everyone).
I said Naruto would get there too late and they’re standing in a pit of despair. Tsunade would use her chakra and face Pain weak, but survive the battle (only to ironically die healing someone–Kakashi). AND that she would survive the battle because Naruto pops up in front of her attacker like he did way back when with Kabuto. Part of the awesomeness in this issue were the symbolic references to the past.
Pain is going to run away like a bitch here, or sacrifice his aspects and slink back into his tower. I’m thinking the loss of the Yahiko body is not going to sit well with Nagato or Konan. I was surprised they all got back up, but I’m thinking they are moving slow. That summons shot looks to me like they stand up slow…but maybe that’s just me.
Konan as a bunshin was a surprise, and just took her to a whole new level in my book–I think Nagato better sit down before she gets home, ’cause mom is pissed and looking to whip some ass.
That shot of Jiraiya, Minato and Naruto…if Kishi is Bono he’s teasing me. I still say it’s not just a teacher student connection, but DNA.
Can I just say, Kiba is looking like a weakass bitch next to his mom? Is kind of funny, because Kiba and Naruto have parallel personalities. Here’s what Naruto could have been with a strong parent around to protect him. It’s interesting…
Maybe Naruto will beat Pain when he’s weak. Nagato will lost Yahiko and hate Naruto. It will force Nagato plan something to get Naruto on a futher match. And during this second Nagato will come himself. So he will use (supposing that they’re dead) Jiraya and Itachi as corpses. If a ninja corpse has his secrets, those two could be enought for another epic fight. I’m hopping that Itachi is not dead. His death was ridiculous for the most powerful char that manga has shown until this point (Madara and Zetsu haven’t had a fight yet, but I bet they’re stronger). But Jiraya… If he’s not dead, it’ll hurt watching a char that everybody loves without an arm.
The point is: Does anybody here want not to see Rinnegan history?
If Kishi don’t write about it, we will all become furious!!!
I have one question for everybody: Who thinks that Naruto is a member from the Senju Clan?
(Personally I don’t think that raising trees looks like Naruto’s patern. But actually there’s a possibility! Even though I don’t think that’s the right way to control it… This could solve Kyubii’s control problem – for those who thinks that only Sharingan can control Kyubii. We could see Senju versus Uchiha again!)
I totally agree…Naruto really should have said “Kneel before Zod…bitch!”
@makumbaum according to madara basically everyone from the main part of konoha is senju… so yes naruto would be senju, also there isnt much to know about the rinnegans history, the only 2 known to have had it are rikoduo or w/e and pain, but they will probably show clips from pains past after jiraiya left.
and not everyone in a clan has to have the bloodline limit… the first was the only one able to use his wood element(naturally… yamato is artificial), and we know that the second was his brother and tsunade is his grandaughter… so naruto being senju doesnt mean he can use wood haha
Lol, yeah. That’s why Minato Namikaze, if he’s a senju, has different type of jutsu. The teleportation technique that can kill millions instantly.
When will the next issu get out in Onemanga?
Motive – Damn Naruto is boss…Nw he’s got 2 elements,wind AND fire n to think he’s still genin.I wonder hus fire techniques are stronger between Naruto and Sasuke,but I think its Naruto cos his r sage techniques and on top of dat he can make it stronger using his wind element.The other thng is dat he can actually control his Summons,lol…I think Naruto is da best match 4 da rin’negan cos da six,I mean 4 pains(lmfao) r lyk Naruto’s Kage Bushin technique.I really think dat the scroll on his back is one of his clones transformed collecting the natural chakra while he’s on da move…damn I cant wait for ep.431 to come out,I wonder hus stronger NW btwn Naruto n Sasuke…
dattebayo is dropping naruto shippuden =(
@Renzy: wood combined with balls would just be…overkill wouldn’t it? O.o
@Makumbaum: I think Uchiha vs. Senju at the end is a given, I’ve been wondering how Naruto might be Senju, and posted this. We know he doesn’t get Senju from Kushina, so it has to be coming from Minato–the only question is how daddy links in.
@ibi maybe kishi is toying with us and naruto is a huge sexual joke… but yea im hopeing minato is the seconds grandson haha
or great grandson cough cough daddy-jiraiya cough
that was last weeks
When I look at the Second Hokage, Minato, Jiraya an Naruto… It’s impossible to say that they don’t have some kind of connection!!!
The Second was alive when Tsunade was young. So… Could Minato be the Second’s son?! Well… It could be awesome if it were true. But doesn’t explain the nature manipulation. If Naruto is a Senju Clan’s member, maybe his first element would have been water or earth… I agree with @renzy10… Just because he’s a Senju, doesn’t mean that he can cast wood element. We’ve never saw the Second use wood – he was the best water user ever seen. If it cames this way… Maybe Naruto’s next element could be Water or Earth.
And when the village were formed, another ninjas, from other small clans joined Senjus and Uchihas. Hyuugas joined them when this happens. Maybe they were another powerful clan…
About Rinnegan… Kurenai has strange eyes. Can she be another Rinnegan user? And she was found without memories… She’s a misterious char. Let’s wait to a little more about her.
About fire element… Using fire now could be too early. If it were water and earth, it can be understandable cause Sages control the enviroment. But fire has to be created. But… Like I said before, I think it’s early to see Naruto using any second element. Maybe we will see this after he prove some abilities using wind – not only powerful jutsu, but especially useful ones too!!!
@makumbaum narutos next element is going to be water… we established that on here over the summer haha basically because its the hurricane chronicles(i beleive is the meaning of shippuuden haha) and wind + water gives you a hurricane… i dont think kishi will give naruto fire because that would connect him more to the kyuubi… naruto is a character who wants to be able to achieve greatness on his own, using fire brings the fox in and its almost like he IS the fox which we dont want haha
o also the way i see it as possible is the second is jiraiyas father, then jiraiya is minatos father, and of course minato is narutos father, but if you think about it the second was a grown man when the third was a child… so there must be a missing link in there between jiraiya and the second if they really are related haha (what if it was danzou lmao)
@renzy10 I’m not so sure about water cause it’s a more defensive element. Naruto is an agressive char. If he uses water to make ice… Then it’s on another level and could be good to see. Imagine the Ultimate Fire Jutsu, Amaterasu, against the Ultimate Ice Jutsu?! That could be cool. Let’s wait and see… By one way or another, just seeing him use another elemental jutsu will be awesome!!!
But definetly… To some sneak attacks… Earth would be great. He could change the terrain, kick the ground and make some walls, hide himself… That’s more the way Naruto fights.
But I’m keeping my bet on fire (not now, but on future)… And maybe Sasugay uses water. Water plus Lightning makes a good combination… Imagine a Hell Fire Rasengan!!! Naruto’s arm will turn to ash… hahaha
im prty sure the scroll is the frog scroll just like how jiraya wore it and the cloak is almost like his dad dats why the frog saw the resemblence betweeen jiraya and the fourth
@renzy10 I’m putting my money on Jiraya beeing Naruto’s uncle.
the phrase should be like in tropic thunder: GET SOME!!!
@makumbaum see naruto cant use ice because haku only had it as a bloodline limit… so unless kushina is from hakus clan there is no way naruto could use ice jutsus, and that actually is a possible thought haha
I think Kakashi is the Second’s great grandson; the hair is the same, and in the anime the Second created a chakra lightning blade or something, which seems to be a family trait.
@domosenpai the second used water techniques at the highest level… idk if he was ever proven to use lightning although there are similarities to kakashi with the hair
oh and can someone explain why Hinata’s little sister does not have the weird looking seal on her head like the rest of the branch family.
is she old enough yet? thats the only reason i can think of… or the fact that hinata isnt the head of the family yet… she is still a part of the main household, and if hinata were to die she would be the next in line to take over as head of the clan
http://www.narutohurricane.com/character-bios/leaf-second-hokage.shtml
theres the 2nds bio
when will chapter 431 come out?
@renzy10 The second wasn’t grown when the third was a child, how I know this? The picture showing Tsunade as a kid with the first hokage. She was trained by the third so I figure the third is a couple years younger than the second and first. And it is plausible that the second is Jiraiya’s father. The only thing that makes it not plausible is Jiraiya and Tsunade would be cousins.
Naruto should have said, “You’re about to experience more than pain!”
i like naruto
he should had said taste this nuts
He should have said…. YOU CANT BEAT ME, MY POWER LEVEL IS OVER 9000!
@kingcam: back in the Third’s death flashbacks there is a panel with the older brothers (1st and 2nd) who are grown, mentoring little Sarutobi.
@Makumbaum: like Renzy points out, 2nd did serious water tricks, so Senju has that in the bloodline. Naruto’s going to want to learn water next because fire (Sasuke’s 1st element) is weak to it. My guess is Sasuke will learn earth and Naruto will also learn fire–so that between the two of them all 5 elements are covered.
@elasticated nin’s trash talk made me lol…’all your heads are goin up HIS ass!” hee.
@renzy10 I thought bloodline limit were techniques that pass through the family. For example: If Naruto specialize himself on rasengan shuriken and made this technique a family’s secret, then it becomes a bloodline limit. So it’d possible to create some ice techniques. Sharingan and Byakugan has it’s screts too. But certaily involves more than only nature manipulation. And that sword of Second was out of manga…
I’ve never seen any very offensive water technique… Except on the Movie that Naruto dies. There was an enemy that use a powerful water attack that could slice rocks!!! But… It’s out of manga script…
@makumbaum- ice wold be cool but it is the bloodline trait of Haku’s clan, whcihc he was pretty much the last one of, so ice is out. But wind does make the water attakcs much larger and much more powerful (such as when he and yamamoto combined elements… ice is out, but massive storms are still in… giant water dragon, the water fang projectile, kisame’s sharks, water vortex? those were fairly offensive attacks. Water is more of a hybrid element where as rock is primarily defense, and fire, lightning, and wind are offensive techniques… water can be used as both…
think of it as a combo attack with naruto, imagine him and saskue teaming up later on against madara or whoever is the big bad ass vilian… naruto brings a giant storm with ferocious winds and rain, saskue shoots giant fire balls into the clouds and shoots kirin at the enemy wich naruto folows up with a combined massive fire wind tornado
@Makumbaum Erm i think bloodline limits are tecknics that ivolve clans dna to perform the jutsu.. such as byakugan sharingan etc…. the one that u say are hiden teckniks that are passed to families..such as shikamaru’s chouji’s etc … And I BET MY LEFT TESTCLE that naruto’s second element is water… naruto’s name is namikaze.. just like his fathers that means water and waves… So if u think naruto with water and wind element can surf all the time::PPP Ooooo
@Makumbaum: as I understand it, kekke genkai are passed in DNA like eye color. There’s no guarantee you will inherit the clan’s kekkei gankai just because you’re a member of the clan. Only a select few of the Uchiha had sharingan. Also, and maybe I’ve misunderstood this, kekkei genkai happens when the person has two natural chakra affinities. Ice is wind and water, wood is water and earth.
Tenzou wouldn’t talk about sharingan and shadows, so maybe that gets into the the yin yang things we’ve kicked around before?
@ibiki maybe it was Asuma playing with the first and second, they look a lot alike. And if it was sarutobi, then it seems that the first didn’t age very much.
@kingcam: no, it’s Sarutobi’s flashback as he kills his resurrected brothers, sealing them inside himself. Gray hair and tiny little Sarutobi eye tears. http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/123/14/
lightning nin are still coming to knonoha saskgay and madera
wtf happend to kasamie
tobi was mizukage
zetu dissaperd
the black tailed beast is still raping his heart out
wtf is gonna
happen
i bet here will be an after shippuden type shit
like naruto thenext generation
like madera still out there and shit
and there will actally be more black ppl
in there like some random ass dude genin alwys eatin chikn ramen
and looks tite as hell
like jay that one lighting nin
I had an epiphany
I dont see why a slug would bother to protect kakashi if he was already dead! Kakashi lives……
and that still doesn’t seem set in stone. If anything it would seem that the first just didn’t age or that the third wasn’t as old as he seemed.
Tsunade’s silence to Kakashi would indicate that she had grave doubts. In addition she only asked Choji to return for his father and team. It is possible she is either protecting the body out of respect or she hasn’t given up yet despite all of it.
The question is how injured would Kakashi have to be that Tsunade is more than just regularity worried, but severely concerned.
@kingcam: exactly.
i don’t htink sarutobi is brother to the first and second… and madara talks about the senju as one big clan, but it sounds like it was more or less a group of clans seeing as there are no senju around in one giant village, and the hyugas along with shiki’s, chouji’s, and ino’s clans have been around since the founding of konoha. Remember Asuma is glad he was a member of the sarutobi clan…
@kingcam, the third was old and in his seventies, the first and second both died in there thirties to forties… but it’s a manga, a lot of the details can be way off…
Yeah! I’m convinced about Ice! It’s a blood limit!!!
The First Hokage was strong!!! But one thing makes me wonder…
Was the Fist Hokage the one that gather chakras and made those nine beasts? The manga doens’t talk about details, but it make us understand that was it. I bet Konoha was made up by 9 clans. And each clan had its specific beast – Hyuuga, etc. Uchiha’s was Kyubii. Remember when Sasuke came to Uchiha’s hideout… There was a small fox there. It just came to my mind… Maybe the Uchihas can summon foxies… And Kyubii was their leader, just like the frogs.
nope, the tailed beasts have pretty much always exsisted and are more or less along the lines of greek gods (not that they created anything, or in this case govern anything) but they are incredibly powerful. They exsist for whatever reason so just nod your head and go with it cause kishi said so. Also the fox never led the uchiha, the whole point of the sharingan is to control the kyubii cause nothing else can control it. if the sharingan came from the byakugan, it was developed to control the power of the fox.. and that’s it, that’s the whole point of the sharingan.
LOL @Makumbaum- first, its unusual for Sasuke to get water. Naruto will get water you know why? One proof is that when he goes unconcious, he usually is in and on water. Also, the kyubii inside him appears in bubbles.
And frogs are wat different than tailed-beasts.
Frogs are a group or clans like humans, while beasts are concentrated chakras that makes their hosts(Naruto, bee, etc) or owner(Madara..) unfathomably strong.Unfortunately for Naruto, Minato wants Naruto to everything else himself. Like sealing the Yin(Kyubiis good side in a scroll) himself.
Also @kingcam- They had a picture of the two advisers of Hokages ( those old men and women that are incredibly annoying) with Sarutobi and the two first hokages.
It confuses us so much because, note this, Jiraiya, Ori and Tsunade seem to have, well they actually have ways to make themselves appear younger than they’re suppose to be.
he should have said bring it bitch then pain should say its already been broughten, then naruto should say you killed jaraiya and you killed??? kakashi and you destroyed my town now im gonna kill you and you and you and you and you and you. i hope you can take some pain cuz im bout to dish it out yipeeo ki yay muthereffer im ready to bring down the house o pain on ya you sir are one dead king of duechecakes you prick
I searched for more information on the spoiler and I found the original source. Turns out its fake, more than fake its a prediction posted by a user at Naruto Central. Someone got the idea it was the real thing and spread it around as a spoiler.
http://forums.narutocentral.com/showthread.php?t=46142&page=4
@alec the way i understood the sharingan coming from byakugan was it was a fluke haha but idk it was way back
@makumbaum kakashi even says in the zabuza arc that hakus clan are the only ones able to use ice… but i wont give up on the idea that kushina was possibly part of that clan haha (you heard it here first)… also sarutobi was definitely trained by the first and second as a child there is no possible way you can come up with anything that argues it
in general i think in the last anime when they showed the anbu dying and destroying his body it was a hint that kakashi is alive, that whole intro to the episode was completely unnessesary haha so kakashi would destroy his body if he were to die
also the kyuubi is supposed to be a natural disaster from hate and shit like in ghost busters haha
Could Danzo be Madara?
@makumbaum we had this discussion too haha… idk if we ever came to a conclusion… there was a theory post about it it was tobi being danzou madara and obito and there were so many things that supported it its kinda odd i think… my thought was if it was true, madara took obitos body for his sharingan even though there was only one, then fixed up the body (metal plates on his body) or you know change the order haha… but then danzou covers that right eye, if he is madara/tobi/obito im guessing the real danzou was killed and madara stepped in, this would also explain danzous connection to the hidden mist, because kisame refers to tobi as mizukage madara and mizukage is the leader of the hidden mist…
hope that helps (-:
Theory: Could Pain take Kakashi’s body then use it as one of his own to make a combination of the Rinniegun and Mangekyo Sharingun and making Tobi say oh **** why didn’t I think of that. The irony being we would finally get to see Kakashi’s face but only when its no longer him and Pain has dyed Kakashi’s hair orange and pierced it like his own. Gasp!!!
I thought it was only Orochimaru and Tsunade that did the make themselves look youthful thing and they’re all in their fifties.
madara has been around since the beginning of konoha though haha that is a long ass time… he is old enough to be tsunades grandfather if you look at him as being around the same age as the first… he would hafta be close to around 90… so im sure somethings going on there lol and like ive said before maybe oro got the body switching techique from madara
holy macaroni….
Or maybe Madara is a cyborg ninja like the guy on MGS.
@makumbaum, don’t say that stuff, erich might be listening… we finally got it to die down, and i don’t feel like bringing it back up, especially here, dig back in some of the older posts you’ll find everything you need there, especially in the comment section…
@renzy- i figured it’s fake, but it’s the only thing we got… actually it’s more like the byakugan and sharingan branched off from the rinnegan (gift from god cause otherwise those eyes wouldn’t evolve per say), i claim the basis for this idea since the byakugan is like the six bodies (can see everywhere and the taijutsu is similar to pain using hte balck rods)… and the sharingan can copy any non-bloodline technique, like the rinnegan can use all chakra types…
@kingcam- yeah Tsunade changed her appearence, and oro was using younger bodies, jiraya naturally aged himself… and madara or tobi, whatever, has metal pins in his arm and is able to block the head cleaver with just his arm (or termiantor capabilities)
I’d love Naruto to say something out loud but towards Tsunade, “One finger should be enough”.
i cant wait for the next one
It would be funny if Naruto looked at Tsunade and said “I better be getting laid after this!”
have everbody forgotten Danzou!?!?
Naruto shoudl have yelled: Those eyes wont save you now!
Good one ScreaMo!
we saw naruto pwn laser head with rasengan so quickly does this mean he can now use it with only one hand and without any bunshins?? if so about time !!!
How come there’s no love for Pain? I think he’s the only good guy in the manga. Those senju bastards are nothing but racist, treating the Uchia like that. Plus Konoha has been the most powerful nation in Ninja-dom but have done very little to ensure peace, even in Konoha the title of Hokage seems to remain in one family circle. Pain wants to teach the world the true meaning of pain so that the world can grow, much like how people start to realize the really important things after a major disaster or a near death experience. Naruto is an okay guy but everyone knows he’s just a really really big IDIOT (mo baaakaaa).
I mean 4 people have tried to destroy Konoha (Madara, Orochimaru, Pain and that root guy) but not once has any of the younger generation ever questioned why. Orochimaru may have been a whack job but Madara and Pain are different.
I swear I hate those Konoha bastards, how can u insert a demon (kyubi) into ur own child (naruto) in the name of power? that’s just wrong.
There is no way Naruto can defeat Pain unless the writers write a ridiculously unbelievable story (as they often do).
Fag-suke is another childish character, the fool has to be tied up before he can listen to reason but who can blame him, after watching ur own brother (stupid, idiotic, evil, hell bound brother) kill his own mother (come on people, something is wrong here, its not like she molested him or something) in the name of following the orders of a stupid stupid stupid hokage (sarutobi) who when Orochimaru had killed countless nins in the name of experimentation let him walk free (WTF!, where is the justice there, what about the slain’s family huh).
I can go on and on, Konoha citizens have issues and are in much need of therapy.
What Naruto should say; who gives a crap what he says, I hope he farts himself to suffocation (dobe!). And after he’s done talking Pain should say: “Pain is inevitable…”
Hokage break down.
First: Racist bastard.
Second: Puppet leader.
Third: Unjust ruler (letting Orochimaru get away with multiple homicide)
Forth: Child abuser (sealing a horrible demon into his offspring)
Fifth: (woa, here goes) Compulsive gambler, Drunk, child beater, animal molester (poor ton ton the pig), deceiver (lying about her wrinkles), hot tempered, arrogant etc.
we jus saw laserhead get completely owned by narutos rasengan so does this mean he can use it without any clones and in one hand now?? if so about time is all i can say !!
in naruto manga 431 naruto use a jutsu name fire style:wild fire jutsu and where naruto nows katon or fire i do not understand
If we take a look at Akatsuki members, everyone had some kind of immortality – expect Deidara and Itachi. Sasori, Orochimaru, Kakuzu, Hidan, and so probably, Madara, Pein and Zetsu. That’s my idea of Akatsuki… Even if they use their body in experimental jutsus, they try to archieve immortality. Deidara joined after Orochimaru… Itachi was like a detectetive… But let’s wait to see Kisane. There’s a gap on Kisane’s fight with Sasuke’s partners… Maybe Kisane is a good guy, like Itachi was, and Madara will try to kill him when the chance comes.
@Alec-”… actually it’s more like the byakugan and sharingan branched off from the rinnegan (gift from god cause otherwise those eyes wouldn’t evolve per say)”
Lol, then Madara might have been looking for girl that could match his DNA to produce Rinnegan. Producing Nagato, he tried to make Nagato taste “real Pain” so they say making Nagato what he is right now….LOL dunno, just a random idea.
Hi..in the translation i saw..naruto says “Lets settle this once and for all” in the last panel..which is cool.
Also i dont think naruto demolishing the deva pain is such a big thing..if you refer to manga 422-423 chouji and team did the same to him in a single blow…makes me think kicking deva pains ass in the easiest. it will be intersesting to see how/if naruto takes out the other pains. Also where’s sasuke?
Also, Madara looks like Nagato to me..o_O
but kisame was one of the seven hidden mist swordsmen and so far weve seen them to be ruthless bad guys. and his specialty is a humungus amount of chakra which he probs gets by stealing other peoples through his sword like he did to naruto tht long time ago
Naruto:he did smart but he has frog eye.Maybe naruto will be kill pain.
Im gunna tear you limb from limb!!!
kisame i think is going to cause trouble later on
NAURto to pain: Get Some!!!!
urgh…@Screamo- u do realize that the woman you refer to is above 50!
o.O
I completely agree been a while since I commented but if madara is just madara and not obito or something he said that because of his huge massive amount of chakra he still lived and we know that kisame has the largest amount so therefore he should be around for a while
naruto shud’ve said-
“Look what u did!It’s all your fault!now sasuke likes men!”
oops…wrong person to say that too
he shuda jus said its over then used the fourths space/time jutsu and ripped off deva pains head
how ’bout-
“WTF! SIX BODIES!>>>NO DICKS!!!”
i cant WAIT for Pain(aka shithead) to comment on Gai’s dress(yeah i SAID dress…)
maito guy is the sickest guy ever uunless we count chuck norris buh either way insult one and u gettin roundhoused in the face
@Sion,shut up already:I mean,come on,you can’t be that dumb?
@Shion- Saying all that means that you hate the storyline and how it works. If you think its all stupid and messed up, then just don’t read or watch Naruto, because it would just stress you out.
Oh yeah. The first one to have Rinnegan’s (Rikodou Seninn) a sage like Naruto eh? Interesting…
@shion- wtf are ya ramblin on abt…be careful/too mcuh of that..the swayze’ll take care of ya…
O.O mm…i think that the spoiler is real..so…ahem..I wanted to say thanks to everyone here and of course to you Jeremiah for the AWESOMENESS blog!!I won’t be around for about 6 months..I have to study hard cause I’m sitting for my finals and I must get into the University I want!I’m really sad cause I’m gonna miss the all the next issues but that’s life..huh
Glen I hope you are doing well 
Ibi continue your awesome work!! Minna-san ja matta ne!!♥✿
c ya babyfox!
“All your bases are belong to us.”
congrats on the 700,000 hits mark J-man!
crap i wrote something fo rthe 300,000 mark back in October, this is just insane
lol!
I think Naruto should have said something like
“So you want pain huh, It’ll be my pleasure” or
“One down, six to go” eluding to the fact that he knows real pein Isn’t actually there.
As for the fake spoiler, My guess is that someone watched the movie Kungfu Panda one too many time before writing that absurdity.
@Shion, i hate to join in on gang rapes but you miss a lot of the points everywhere… the first wasn’t rascist (plus he can’t be rascist unless he was hating on Naruto or the raikage guys, it’s more of a clanist???) the first was the strongest period, which is why he got the job, the second was not apuppet ruler, he led for such a short time he didn’t do anything (actually he was more of the clanist), the third didn’t really let oro get away with anything Oro was more than a son to the third so he hesitated on acting, which oro took the chance to get away. The 4th sealed the fox in his own child becasue he was about to die, and why not take the fox and use it to protect the village from the one who summoned it. The fifth had her vices, but she’s obviously saved pretty much everybody in the face of destruction. Plus, what about madara? He tried to destroy the village because he was pissed that he was beaten by the first, and then he went ahead and killed his entire family in the name of revenge. The first, second, and fifth are the only ones related. The third wasn’t related to the senju, and the fourth wasn’t either. Plus Madara was the strongest of the uchiha and was thought to be dead until now, so obviously they went with the strongest people availabe (the fourth was picked over Oro) and the third tried to stick up for the Uchiha so it was the elders who were the ones being “racist.” And your hero pain, so it’s perfectly exceptable to go around killing a man who once saved your life, challenge the leader of your country and then after you kill him, you kill everybody who once associated with him in any way shape or form. Not too mention he has basically tried to destroy an entire village in which most of the people are innocent. He has also threatened to kill millions in the name of “peace”, konoha has done a lot better job than you give credit in keeping peace, think about it there were 2 greatr ninja wars before the founding and and during the early years, there’s been one since and only minor skirmishes here and there. oro comments early on that he was living in a time of relative peace, and konoha has gotten to use to the peace it has brought. Madara even mentions that they are living in relatively peaceful times, and yet he and your hero pain are trying to disrupt that. I like Pain’s goals, but they are jsut to extreme to say that the ends jsutify the means
welll…since it’s a fake…how can it still be a spoiler?(cant seem to logically still refer to it as that since it didn’t really spoil anything….except the rep of panda’s all over the world)
Alec just took the words right outta my mouth!
take that Shion!!!
it’s not, somebody posted it somewhere else as a theory for the next issue, then somebody else got confused and thought it was a sopiler and posted it everywhere like a monkey on crack…
WTF no sasuke does not like men 波風 harshytkage.
oh yeah and and RUMBLE…. no wait hold up. RUUUUMBLE. lmfao I honestly cant stand narutard but that was a sick little entrance with a instant can of laser head brand whoop ass.
Happy new years to all even thou its a little late and im glad to know i havent been forgotten by thanks for the shoutout in the year end wrap up long live awesomeness
lol, nice to hear your not dead…
and my little gravatar thingy is fuked if anyone knows what im doing wrong or what i need to do to get a decent pic instead of this little wiggly monster please let me know
LMAO….monkey on crack….maybe i’ll write my own spoiler and post it sumwhere and another monkey on cannabes can do it’s bussiness
@skyhigh303- umm…sasuGAY means smfin….:p
Nah narutos the homosexual think about it
1. always crying over his friends (male friends)
2. spent years straight training to bring his “best freind sasuke back” note the quotes cause sasuke makes it obvious he dont even like his spazztastic ass
3.never had a girlfriend and cant seem to tell that hinata obviously wants his peter
4.he kissed sasuke yeah thats right he kissed him dont act like you all forgot
5. hes always and constantly forever trying to avenge or save one of his male friends…… um aint there any chicks in konoha he could save?
6.HE’S NARUTO wtf nuff said
well that should do it i just outlined a few basic reasons why naruto should be veiwed as the obsessed stalkerish little homo spazz that he is
but his name doesn’t rhyme with gay!
so it’s SasuGAY all the WAY!
1)SasuGAY’s dick doesn’t shift an inch even if there are girls swarming on him(he is NOT acting cool…just himself)
2)Naruto has been obsessed with boobs for a long time…
3)SasuGAY kissed him too, you cant kiss alone(and if i remember HE was on top! :p)
4)SasuGAY rhymes with GAY(dunno why it wouldn’t)
5)He’s Gay…(self explanatory)
6)He meddled with the swayze…(reason for abve symptoms)
6)HE”S SASUGAY nuf said…
well that should do it i just outlined a few basic reasons why SasuGAY should be veiwed as he is
Good to see you skyhigh, we were about to erect a memorial. ;P
Yeah, Alec, I forgot to tell you I let the monkeys loose. Next time we’ll lock up the crack, huh? AND…WTF, you don’t know the 4th wasn’t Senju. Take that back! My whole universe hinges on that DNA line! And if I cannot get you to take it back I will post 100 lines of nonsense! And if I cannot post 100 lines of nonsense I will write 1,000 crackpot theories…
LOL NO! Sasuke’s still gayer. He smokes weed then tries to attack Itachi. And remember when he got high? He just randomly killed Ori LOL
6)He meddled with the swayze…(reason for abve symptoms) lmfao too funny lol lol i’ll give you this round
i only have some questions…. where did you see itachi giving a “present” to naruto…? I’ve read and saw all of the manga and anime and i can´t remember something like that…
and do someone know when will the 431 manga come out?
thanks
@ibi-
well….alec my not take it back but i’ll give some more, I say he is as much a senju as madara’s screwed up eyeless brother was…
@skyhigh303….i know lol!
and another thing fukusaku himself said that naruto surpassed jiraya on mastering the sage mode… so the sage mode that he has is on the highest level there is… and not like someone said before… lol
skyhigh303=Sasuke lover.
Why do you defend him lik he’s your brother?Damn,you’re hooked by the Sasugay spell(though it only works on you.)
@ ibi- i have a feeling he isn’t senju, cause there ain’t no blonde haired blue eyed folks in the picture of the senju “clan” his family can be from the original senju group, but what i’m saying is the senju is made up of a bunch of difernt clans to make the big one group. Think about how can the senju have founded konoha when shiki’s, inos’, the hyugas, and chouji’s caln have been there all along, the senju i htink was a hodgpodge of differnt clans that came togehter under the senju banner… i base this on that besides the byakugan there are no kekkai genkai’s in the senju (except the first wood element, whcih hasn’t been seen before or since in a legitimately passed down form). Unlike all the mist had the bone people, and the weird eyed ranmanrou (in the anime), and haku’s clan… all kekkai genkai, and there are other groups with secret techniques. To sum it up, the namikaze clan could have been part of the original senju group, but i don’t think that he or naruto for that matter are related in any close way to the senju clan that that the first was part of and Tsunade is descended from…
@ me – read the year end post. Itachi giving Naruto some of his powers happened this last year right before itachi fought Sasuke and Naruto flashes back to it right after the fight is over around 402.
@ Skyhigh – whoot! Whooot! Good to see an OG return from time to time?
@ babyfox – WTF?! Make sure you at least drop in to say high from time to time. I’m gonna miss you!
@ everyone else – new post will be up soon.
but go ahead with the 1,00 crack pot theories, that would be interesting cause there would most likely be one in there that is right and totally mind blowing…
*1,000 theories (btw: which is like half the amount i’ve probably come up with)
exactly clans would have been made up of various different families and were rulled by the first. i doubt even everyone in the uchiha clan has the 2nd name uchiha because not all of them have the sharingan. sasukes family just happened to be the main household part.
soz first part was jus senju clan made up of diff families *
@grimmjowfan: Senju being made up of different clans is just Alec’s hot air. There is no cannon proof of that. Personally, I want to flush that nonsense, but he’s so attached to it, I’d hate to make him cry.
@babyfox: Nnnnuuuuu! I totally missed your message back there. We’ll miss you. I’ll miss you. Good luck on you’re exams–Swayze will be with you I’m sure.
@ibiki: i find it hard to believe tho that the senju and uchiha formed the hidden leaf then all the other clans came along afta as that is way over half of the people we have seen in the manga. in fact have we ever herd of any other people named senju??
@babyfox it will be like in the last manga except instead of jiraiya and minato at your back youll have the swayze and captain planet (-:
@grimmjowfan agreed but madara says the whole like main village is senju… so its possible it did just start senju and uchiha and everyone else came along… its just not that long of a stretch
@grimmjow: Konoha was founded either during or after a great ninja war, and the First did unite a bunch of other clans. That’s cannon. Uchiha was among them–Madara being rival and right hand man to the 1st. Also cannon.
But uniting these other families into a village does not make them part of a clan.
Families don’t get adopted into clans, it’s completely counter to the culture. Your clan, your ancestors, define you and you have no existence but for those identities. That’s why Asian cultures put surnames or clan names first. That’s also part of why Naruto is such an outcast in this world–he has no clan.
No other Senju? Are you sure? Tsunade is the only known Senju–ever hear anyone refer to her clan name? Just because you haven’t heard the name doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. Also, she may be a daughter of the 1st’s daughter–in fact the 1st and 2nd may have all had girls (which also might explain Sarutobi as Hokage). Senju sons–who pass on the name could have all died in wars. That means no one would carry the Senju name, but still have Senju blood.
Jiraiya also has no known clan name, and yet Nidaime (according to hair theory, which isn’t much) seems a likely ancestor.
ibi, you can’t make me cry, well you can, but not about the senju thing… it may be my hot air, but there is no proof that the fourth is related to the first and second, much less Tsunade, they would have made that argument back when Jiraya was explaining her qualifications “part of the sanin, blah, blah, blah, granddaughter of the first, great neice of the second (okay i put that in there, but it works) ohh, yeah, she was a second cousin to the fourth” show me that and i’ll believe you…
well, what i think is that kakashi is still alive…during one of kishi’s interviews he said something about someone later losing their eye sight. And in that flashback of obito he said something about last time he would see for obito, maybe its just the last time he can use that eye. Besides why would the hokages summon protect a dead body from the explosion??? seems like a waste if he was really dead. —-dude thats a good point!
Naruto should have said : Try it again if you dare. I’ll show you what the true pain is, Motherf’rs!!!!!!!
phhh, hair means bull crap as far as tracing ancestory, Tsunade’s hair is nothing like the firsts hair and she is his grandaughter… Sure Kakashi’s hair looked like his dads (cannon), but it also looks like the second’s, and jirayas… are you saying that the hatake are descended of the second and somehow kakashi and Jiraya are some how related… plus how do factor in that the fact that the fourth and NAruto are the only blond hair blue eyed people in the whole damn show, definently not because they are related to a bunch of people who had either white hair, or really dark brown… oro doesn’t have a clan name either… Actually if you want to go hair than, those who have black hair and use fire are somehow related to the uchihas, those who have brown hair and use water or earth, or white hair and use lightning and water, than you can use the senju… that still leaves Naruto and the fourth completely out of the picture, they don’t even have the same eyes as Tsunade (she has light brown), and you can’t use the chakra to define them (in fact you’re more likely to match up with the sarutobi’s)… so until kishi right’s somehting that outlines where naruto and the fourth come from, i’m going to stick with my point of view that he is not related to the senju… plus if kishi is really bono, i expect that to happen against my favor…
@Alec: but that’s just it, you shot yourself down. They didn’t mention that Nidaime was her uncle-of-some-sort, so why would they mention if she’s 3rd cousin once removed from Minato?
And I’m not trying to convince you my DNA theories are right, I’m just saying your point about Senju being a bunch of different clans is theory.
yeah, and i still think they are cause why would Madara want to destroy a village when all the senju have been wiped out, or no there any more?
but exactly, i’m just saying all these theories on people being related are stupid… so just stop because half of them don’t make sense… and thanks for taking my viewpoint on Naruto not being related to the previous hierarchies of the village…
Naruto should have said: I will never forgive you for this !!! I swear I will kill you!!!
haha maybe kishi is a nazi and uses blonde hair and blue eyes to show minato and narutos supremecy over everyone else…
also the hair just shows a connection of some sort… it doesnt have to be blood
if you look you can kind of see that sarutobi jiraiya minato kakashi and naruto all have that similar hair its all jagged and stuff haha
Alec: taking your viewpoint about Naruto, LMAO, nice try. I should have said, symbolically, Naruto has no clan. This makes him a total reject in terms of the Japanese culture: he’s loud, he’s abrasive, he brags, he talks before he listens, he disrespects his elders/shows no respect for clan ranks and he has no clan identity to give him just a little benefit of the doubt.
And that’s why the CLAN speculation is important. Not because of the ’ships, but because Kishi’s made those clan bonds really important to jutsu, skills and plot points. History repeats because our ancestors’ sins come back to haunt us until we get it right.
Kishi’s brought in traditional Japanese cultural values, revering and shattering them at the same time.
THAT’s why I think Naruto is somehow Senju, but we’re not likely to know that until the very end of the story. That fact will be his ultimate redemption in the eyes of his society…and the ultimate lesson to them for being such douchebags about his ‘lack of clan’.
@Ibiki I’m with you… Senju is Senju… Uchiha is Uchiha… And those who feared them, or could see a peaceful life living protected by the strongest, joined them!
And I think there’s a connection between Jiraya and Naruto. Maybe Fourth’s father died on some ninja Wars. So only Jiraya lived. Also, I think Jiraya has somekind of clan – like Orochimaru and Tsunade. Where Jiraya known frogs? Maybe his clan is related with the frogs!
And Senju Hashirama gave one bijuu for each country… So I bet make a Biju could some kind of technique of his, just like Kakuzu collected some hearts. (http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/404/14/)
Also I think that the ultimate Sharingan jutsu is related with rejuvenation or anything related with immortality.
@ibiki: to rival the uchiha clan the seju caln must have been extreemely big and to have not seen any senju ninja is very strange. this leads me to think that the clan really was a bunch of clans that united under the first.
He should’ve said something like: Give me some ramen!
i also dont believe that every ninja NEEDS to be part of a clan. that may have been the case before the villages were founded but now it seems asif families have simply entered their children into the ninja academy. we have never seen any other harunos. although asuma says he was proud to be of the sarutobi clan the only known members are the 3rd and his 2 sons and their imediate family. this means a clan could simply be a small family upto a very large one. u have the hyuga clan which has different houses but its obviously nowhere near as large as the uchiha were.
also talking about jutsus being related to clans. the first was head of senju and we know that other than yamato through experiments noone else can use wood jutsu. compared to the uchiha and hyuga the senju clan is more a big mismash of smaller clans.
How about first a panel of Naruto looking seriously saying your dead. Then jump to that panel going your Dead Mother F#r!!
The hair theory is a simple one because usually in the manga family members have the same hair, shika, chou, kiba and his mother. But families can also be recognized by similar activities such as the thirds and asuma’s smoking and again kiba and his mothers abrasive or aggresive personality.
Kakashi is in no way related to the second, that would be known and talked about, and no one would have had a problem with him being a jonin at the age of 13 or whatever.
the senju are a collection of clans, together they were the most powerful of all. they wanted to add in the uchiha to this meshed family structure to keep peace i nthe general area of the fire country. The uchiha was an individual clan. we all know this because they showed us a picture of the two clans and uchiha had all black hair and relitivly the same kind of dress( sorry to use the hair theory), while the senju had all different styles of hair, white, gray, black.
ABOUT NARUTO JUTSU OPTIONS
1) he cant use ice because that would be dumb of the writers to have a character (haku) say he was the last of his clan then have naruto somehow be related
2) water is a smart choice because im not sure but tsunade said that naruto’s mom was from same country and i think it was a country that had water in some way related to its name…, but also it could be in some relation to sasuke. What im saying is that naruto already has wind which helps sasuke’s fire moves but stops his electric ones, if we add water in the it would help complete the win lose situation we have because water would amplify a lightning jutsu but stop his fire jutsu.
@grimmjowfan Man… Look at my point of view… There were two very powerful clans… Everybody feared them! They decide to made a truce. WHY OTHER CLANS THAT HAD TERRITORIES NEAR WOULDN’T JOINED THEM? It’s better for everybody… They could be protected against wars and live a peaceful life, just because enemies would think two times before attack a region protected by Uchiha’s and Seju’s. (Especially when we remember that Hashirama had every tail beast. Maybe could have existed other ones that did not have tail.)
There’s no need to mix clans… If they were powerful, they were proud of their clan’s name. Konoha is big, but has its own clans peacefuly existing. Obviously there will be commom jutsus… And clan’s high level secret jutsus – like sharingan, byakugan, moukuton. And just to say… We don’t have any information that the Second and Tsunade couldn’t cast Moukuton.
Also I think Hanzou is alive! (http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/369/10/)
And maybe there would exist some others much powerful limit bloodlines. Even if Naruto were from Senju, I cannot imagine him using wood element… I can imagine him using Earth and Fire… But Wood and Water… So I hope that Naruto’s mother had one astonishing limit bloodline.
Naruto’s being from Senju could mix Sasuke’s ideals. Maybe Kishi want to say “the new generation don’t have to be blamed by old generation’s errors”.
@grimmjow said: to rival the uchiha clan the seju caln must have been extreemely big and to have not seen any senju ninja is very strange. this leads me to think that the clan really was a bunch of clans that united under the first.
Big? That’s a leap in logic. Powerful, yes. Both clans were descended from 2 men, they were likely small when Konoha was founded.
It is strange not to have seen any senju, especially when so much of the manga has turned on clan issues and history repeating.
So? Why the silence? I’ve given you my reasons. And I’ve listened to yours, but they don’t make sense to me given the culture. Clans don’t adopt other families; the whole point of clan reverence is to grant immortality to your ancestors.
@Fuutonsavior
Here’s her country: Whirlpool Country. (http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/367/11/)
gotta say im impressed with the knowledge of the actual japanese culture history but there has to be a plausible theory as to why we havent seen anyone with the name senju. when the first taught the third and the 2 elders we see they arent called senju. and this cant be too long after the founding of konoha. tbh it seems more likely that the senju clan was a full of smaller clans than to have a village of senju members who have never even been mentioned or seen. i understand the point of the clan history and ancestors being important to a clan but it gives no reason why there cant be very different faccions tht were orringinally diff calns.
@Fuutonsavior: Still not logical. Uchiha have an obvious kekkei genkai that has always been considered powerful. Don’t you think they might have tried to preserve that with a little inbreeding in their past? Quite possibly, they look alike because the gene pool is small.
The Senju don’t appear to have that ‘problem’ and so even the brothers we know about (1st and 2nd) are not clones of each other. This doesn’t mean they are adopted brothers, though, so to say Senju is a bunch of unrelated clans is a huge leap. AND your statement relies on hair theory, which just as easily makes Jiraiya Minato’s daddy. Pffft. Maybe he is, and I kind of hope so, but I’m not going to spout that crap off like fact because…it’s pure speculation.
Maybe Kishi was hiding some people names just to create onother discussion between us. Remeber that Japanese mangaka need to creates an evolution on his characters… And this happens with the elements that forms a history too!
Back then, who dreamed to ask yourself about elements chakra? We only thought that it was a jutsu and didn’t need some requeriments. But elemental chakras were inserted just to enrich the history line. Back then Kishi have talked about limit bloodlines, but didn’t give details. Now it’s the time for Bloodlines. Like in past, Kishi talked about yin-yang chakra, but did not reveal details either! After bloodlines, probably it will be the next. And the evolution continues… If there’s no evolution, our history will come to an end!
I will not be surprised to see some chars without clan’s name until now being Senju. There’s also a possibility that Kyubii could have destroyed Senju’s house. And this could have been the trigger to kill all Uchihas.
yeah i see wat ur sayin but what i was trying to say was that the senju could have easily defeated certian clans such as the hyuga ( dont know how to spell it) and and many others, in return the loosing clans could have decided to form an alliance’s with the senju, thus uniting under the senju banner.
@Ibiki Teishi Now I have to desagree with you… Jiraya didn’t had kids. (http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/367/11/)
I think that maybe he was Minato’s uncle.
i agree with futtonsavior 100% buh it may not have even had to be a fight tho i dotn see wat stops alliances of clans
@grimmjow: I’ve already given the most common reason for a clan name to disappear: daughters.
@Fuutonsavior I don’t think so… I think that the formation of Konoha was just to unite clans without the need to join the name Senju.
Many Clans in War -> 2 of them were stronger (Senju and Uchiha) -> Those 2 decide to make an aliance and construct a city
I’m from a weak clan that lives around the area of the city. Of course I’m gonna join them to archieve peace! What I have to loose? I’m gonna have free militar defense from the 2 most powerful clan from the Era!!!! When we have fear from strongers… We have those who follow them… (Nurarihyon No Mago’s logic hahahaha)
@Fuutonsavior: alliance with a clan is not the same thing as being in the clan, tho. Sorry if I misunderstood you.
@ibiki: i understand that the name may dissapear buh can u rele expect it to alm,ost dissapear completely?? were there no sons born at all? i could be wrong and there could be many senju living in konoha that havent been mentioned. but wouldnt daughters marry other clan members to keep it going because as u stated erlier the idea was to keep the imortality of ancestors and it seems as if because of marriage issues the clan name has died out :S but i guess we cant know for sure
@Makumbaum: re Jiraiya’s statement about never having kids…better to say he never raised kids. You honestly think that old perv doesn’t have a few er, ‘heirs’ running around?
Really?
@千手 鼾弟子 Ibiki Teishi: no prob
@Makumbaum: so wat ur saying is that senju and uchiha formed an alliance then the others followed? cause that could have also happened, but sadly we dont know the order of events, but wat we do know is that the uchiha kept very exclusive even when they did form an alliance with the senju they had there own sector in the village for uchiha’s only. Unless forced to comply to an alliance by force, i dont think they would do ur idea.
@Fuutonsavior: I think that’s because Madara was the leader. He sacrificed his brother to became powerful (if it’s really true), and could not became supreme leader of the village. But that aside… I bet that Madara were envious. Like Sasuke were when Naruto was stronger. Madara wanted to be aknowledge as the most powerful ninja becaming Hokage. So he tried to use this event to start a coup d’etat. But the Uchiha’s didn’t agree. So he take Kyubii and attempted to attack Konoha. Maybe he caused some casualties during this event – e.g. maybe destroying Senju’s house. So the remain village clans saw Uchihas as trouble to maintain peace… And then Uchihas, moved by that diffidence, tried to became leaders of the village. But Itachi killed them (if it’s true).
That’s part of history could be explained by a new char linked to Minato. That’s why I hope to see an old friend of the fourth… Or Narutos mother… Or even someone linked to Naruto’s mother. Another new char wouldn’t be bad to extend the history and explain more about the fight against Kyubii. There’s many mysteries behind this attack!!!
Speaking of clans what clan is Naruto from ? Thats bothered me for the longest what is that crest on his shoulder ?
ok where do i read the new ones my sorce stopped at 429
well uzumaki is supposed to be some clan from one of the water villages… i forget the exact name…. he got this name from his mother seeing as how he doesnt know his father was the fourth
Best line there would have been:
“You THINK you know pain. I’ll show you pain.”
as a more in your face line.
Or go for the Narutocliche “I was baptized in pain but my friends helped me out of the sadness. Let’s make up and kick Mandara’s and Sasuke asses !
What about the crest? I thought pervy named him in one of his books? and Minato ran with it….
lol can Naruto FINALLY become a jounin? I mean COME ON!!!!!!!! hes like frickin awesome, he showed the sage mode, showed rasengan which is a A-rank move, so is shadowclone, and also how bout the fact that he has different rasengans.
btw: Sagemode+shadow clones+ all of them doing Rasengans = PWNAGEULTRAOWNAGETHATWILLFUCKURASSMOTHERFUCKAUFRICKINPAINBITCHANDTHATKONANPERSONWITHTHEPAPERBUNSHINANDALLTHATCRAPWITHTHEOWNAGENARUTOWILLBRINGWITHTHATCOMBONATION
lol the name imaginative guy is gay(Im him) but dont u guys think so? I mean cmon srsly Sagemode and by himself its like 1 hit K.O. to that lazer head, then what if he did sagemode which gave him awesome power then he does like a 1000 bunshins then he does rasengan, and since its sagemode he doesnt even need the shadowclone to charge his up anymore.
for those who disagree with that: that was a moment’s notice theres no way he couldve charged, then ran, THEN hit that guy.
@ ibi- your missing the whole point, There could have been senju clan which the first and second were part of… but i’m saying that they could have joined with other clans and then they picked the senju name as there banner because of the strength of the first… I have no problem with saying nruto and the fourth come from this original group, but saying the are related to the other hokages in any way is absurd. The senju could have been like a mini-village before they joined with the uchihas to make the powerful enough group of konoha. Otherwise, why would madara refer to the leaf as senju, when there are none. Senju seems to mean anybody in the leaf, not of Uchiha blood… that makes more sense in saying the uchihas were betrayed by the non-uchiha leaf ninjas… thus the senju…
See, you can’t just get together with your homies and say ‘yo, our posse is now a clan, straight up.’ It’s completely counter to the culture of filial piety, ancestor worship and…the will of fire.
I’d be more likely to believe that Nidaime had 100 daughters and strategically married them into the Hyuugas, Yamanakas, Aburames, Akimichis, Naras, Morinos, Uminos, Mitearishis, Sarutobis and yes, even Uchihas.
Sooooo, nobody knows what that crest is?
omfg, yes i get your point, but i’m not saying that those clans joined the senju clan… i’m saying they all got together and stayed seperate clans but went under the organizational banner called senju (aka thousand skills) which they wood (yes the pun was freakin intended) much like they all gathered under the organizational name Konoha… it has nothing to do with breaking down family tradition cuase they obviously kept there clans, but they joined under the name senju as an identification amongst the other villages… http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Senju
not to freaking mention, it is the daughters who lose there names why is Naruto’s name Uzumaki, when his dad’s last name was namikaze… get your own facts right before you walk in here with your damn crack pot theories…
and i’m not ranting at you ibi, i’ve just had a bad day, sorry for making you the source
lol, Alec, of any of the monkeys in here I’m the one most likely to take your ranting as it is intended and find it funny as hell. No worries. Sorry you had a crap day. Now…we were saying…
Psh. Uniting under a banner is NOT a clan. Having a thousand jutsus and specialists of diverse skills does not mean people are unrelated–it points to a diverse gene pool (the opposite of what the Uchiha and other clans with single unique talents would have focused on). Hashirama and Tobirama didn’t have family names in .:addition:. to Senju and what you are suggesting is that Senju is a political alliance not a blood clan. The evidence of their names (Senju Hashirama, Senju Tobirama) testifies against that.
Naruto’s named Uzumaki and Kiba’s named after his mom–because there is no known dad. Go back and look here: http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/382/10/ Why is Kushina embarrassed? Why does Jiraiya act surprised to see her? Or is it her belly he’s surprised to see? OR both? And the next shot is her looking at her swollen belly. Notice they are not in the Hokage tower but in a homey kitchen. Kushina’s apartment? No, Jiraiya would have expecter her to be there. Minato may not be hokage yet, and he and Kushina aren’t officially a family by these reactions. There are lots of reasons why they would keep their child a secret, but I think we’re going to have to wait and see.
And…I have my facts straight!!! But you’ve had a bad day so I’m going to pretend you didn’t say that. (I think I’d be less offended if you called me a stupid ho.)
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Psst…Alec, I think we may have frightened them. Quick, hide their pipe while they’re distracted.
ibiki… thats completely absurd. nidaime had 100 daughters and stragegically married them into other clans… its like saying all residents of leaf are all blood related cos they fixed all marriages of individuals in the village.
i find alec previous comment make more sense. 1st hokage together with his clan (bro and relatives) and other different clans decided to form a group and name that group as Senju clan.
theres no way to back up senju clan is a real clan. if it were, what happen to all senjus? the remaining reference we could do is look at the history of hidden leaf how it was formed, and do this quick math.
all hidden leaf clans – uchiha clan = remaining clans are part of senju clan
(if hidden leaf was formed by two groups: uchiha and senju clans.)
theres no way to back it up, but go think about it logically. if uchiha clan that madara lead back in the day were all uchiha and i cant see any equal amount of senju clan as uchiha but just different clans exist in konoha.. what thats tell you… senju is merely a banner name of the group of the first hokage that belongs.
go criticize my comment. im open for any arguments, but i stand what alec belief on the senju clan that is a banner name choosen by different clans that 1st hokage belongs to.
Minato had the crest too…Does anyone have a brakedown of the clan crests?
all im saying senju clan is not like uchiha who is only family clan, but rather have dozen clans consisting it. we could say jiraiya (?), namikae, sarutobi, hyuuga, hatake and other clans today are successors of those other clans exist within senju.
to make short, senju clan is clan within clans of elite ninja that the first hokage formed. thats why eventhough uchiha was wiped in the earth… konoha is one of the strongest village because its still ruled senju clans…
AAAARGH!!!where’s my fix!!I wANT MY fix!!!Who hid my pipe!!……I cant take it….my pupils are dilating…i need my crack…i…need….itt……….!(lighting cracks.!thunder all around)
Noone…..takes…my….FIX!!!(WILD BLINDING FLASH OF LIGHT!)
*harshytkage goes ssj 5*
scares the shit outta whoever hid his pipe and takes it back!
*he then black out*
Wha…what happened guys?
all im saying senju clan is not like uchiha who is only family clan, but rather have dozen clans consisting it. we could say jiraiya (?), namikae, sarutobi, hyuuga, hatake and other clans today are successors of those other clans exist within senju.
to make short, senju clan is a clan within clans of elite ninjas that the first hokage formed. this makes sense to back up that konoha is considered as the most powerful village in ninja, and despite of the uchiha massacre that happened, madara knows konoha is still swarm by successor clans of senju. thats why he is cautious with his identify to so the konoha wont know he is still alive and plotting something sinister.
@mod. why this got deleted what? this should be on top of my first post.
ibiki… thats completely absurd. nidaime had 100 daughters and stragegically married them into other clans… its like saying all residents of leaf are all blood related cos they fixed all marriages of individuals in the village.
i find alec previous comment make more sense. 1st hokage together with his clan (bro and relatives) and other different clans decided to form a group and name that group as Senju clan.
theres no way to back up senju clan is a real clan. if it were, what happen to all senjus? the remaining reference we could do is look at the history of hidden leaf how it was formed, and do this quick math.
all hidden leaf clans – uchiha clan = remaining clans are part of senju clan
(if hidden leaf was formed by two groups: uchiha and senju clans.)
theres no way to back it up, but go think about it logically. if uchiha clan that madara lead back in the day were all uchiha and i cant see any equal amount of senju clan as uchiha but just different clans exist in konoha.. what thats tell you… senju is merely a banner name of the group of the first hokage that belongs.
go criticize my comment. im open for any arguments, but i stand what alec belief on the senju clan that is a banner name choosen by different clans that 1st hokage belongs to.
@mod. why this got deleted what?
Reflections on the Senju Debate….
I believe that the name Senju is the adopted name for a collective of united clans and the honorary name given to its first leaders. It makes sense to assume this since the name Senju translates roughly to “1000 skills”. No one clan has that many unique techniques in its arsenal. However I understand that the number 1000 is likely an exaggeration. It might have been their intention to tag themselves as such to serve as a intimidating psychological factor against their rivals, primarily the Uchihas who lacked variety in skill and technique. Each group stood behind their strongest members, The First Hokage and Madara Uchiha respectively. It makes the most sense to assume that the Uchihas were not the same in composition as the Senju. The Uchihas were mostly likely a single clan with homogeneous traits and skills, unlike the Senju, who were made up of many clans with many skills.
I think the reason that we don’t hear the name “Senju” brought up anymore is explained by the natural progression of the manga. The theme of Naruto is evolution/succession (new generation surpassing previous ones).As time passed, the Fire country stabilized and wars became less frequent. There was less of a need to rally behind the Senju identity now that the Uchiha were more or less allies. Thus the clans become more independent. They established new identities more closely associated with their clans unique abilities. However, there is still an emphasis on preserving a joint identity, of responsibility and pride. The Senju title was dropped for the over used catch phrase “Preserving the Will of Fire”. That phrase really expresses the themes of the manga, evolution and individuality, but at the same time, ironically, speaks of the Konoha’s history and the important group unity that help create it.
im thinking that naruto has somehow convinced the fox to channel the sage chakra for him unless he is so badass he managed to comeplete it while moving
@Alec: Sorry… But Wikia said “It is very well possible that the Senju clan disbanded into smaller clans and families [...]“. It didn’t said “The Senju clan was disbanded”.
Well… I don’t think that Minato and Jiraya were from Senju. But that could be a good way for Kishi to proceed. This can creates another fight between Senjus and Uchiha. Also it can shows that there’re things that must have remain in the past for the success of the Next Generation. That could be one Kishimoto’s message.
@Amun-Ra: I think that crest is related with Namikaze’s or Uzumaki clan. If it’s related to Minato, maybe Naruto uses that just to show everybody that he is the Kyubii kid. Or someone told him it was from his father and he uses that with pride. One way or other, soon this crest secret will be revealed along with Naruto’s lineage.
Someone said something about hair styles. I partialy agree with it. But not in all cases it’s true. But to help this guy… Just take a look at this picture of Minato:
Does someone can see the resemblance with Jiraya?
Here’s the hair picture: http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/382/09/
The link didn’t work… Maybe it was the “”.
Naruto should have said: ‘which of you motherf**kers destroyed Ichiraku’s Ramen shop??!!!???’
Hey I found you website and its awesome! Thanks for showing us the close up of Naruto destroying Lazer Head as you call him(pretty good name!)I didn’t know he used the Rasengon, so that thanks for the closeup! Also Naruto’s finishing line should have been “I’ll destroy you for what you’ve done!!” Also I believe this manga is number 430. Thanks again.
@Tara: welcome! I assume by your name you’re another gal, so I’d love to see you get an icon and logon and all: here. Same goes for all you other anons.
@Harshy: you can have the pipe back, I wouldn’t dream of harshing on that awesomeness. ^.^
(Although, I feel like I have to state…because some apparently can’t tell the difference between outrageous joke and honest statement…this is a joke. It is not true. Smoking crack is NOT awesomeness and really, NOT funny. I’m reasonably sure Harshy does not smoke crack or he wouldn’t have such beautiful comedic timing. See? That’s why it was funny, and now that I’ve had to explain it…it’s not.)
Hey,@Jeremiah,@Ibiki,when is the next post coming up?
@Kapatidmo: as a new commenter your are moderated at first, and sometimes it takes a bit for someone to let them through, they were not deleted.
I don’t know you well enough to spar with you, but apparently you want my attention. At the risk of repeating myself, I will answer–but only because I don’t want it to look like I’m ignoring you. There is nothing more to say here.
The 100 daughters was not a theory but a straw man argument to show the oversimplification fallacy in the ‘Senju is not a clan or they wouldn’t have disappeared argument’. It was a joke. You’ll find I that when I start arguing with fallacy, there is a joke in there somewhere.
Although, 1,000 daughters (as ridiculous as that is) offers a better explanation about the disappearance of Senju than Senju not being a blood clan but an alliance. I can’t say it enough, this idea is completely counter to clan culture, and would only make sense to Westerners of European descent (generalization, a joke). It is only logical if you don’t understand what a clan is and how it works. (statement of fact, not a joke)
@everyone- what ibi said is right folks….i don’t smoke crack, the timing was just to irresistable for me so i HAD to write smfin!
P.S- Smoking crack in NOT awesomeness!
P.S.S – Smoking anything LIKE crack ain’t awesomeness either!
P.S.S.S – WTF smoking ain’t awesomeness in the first place!
P.S.S.S.S. – Thanks for my pipe ibi ^^
Like @Ibiki said, there’s no sense in talk about Senju clan if they’re an alliance of many clans! Obviously Senju was an independent clan, as big as Uchihas. But something happened to them during Uchiha’s or Kyubii’s Attack.
Maybe Madara killed Senju’s while Uchihas were massacred… Of even before this… During Kyubii’s attack, the nine tails could have destroied Senju’s clan house! This could have pulled the trigger for everybody suspect Uchihas. Imagine: Madara uses Kyubii to attack Konoha and massacre Senjus. But everybody thought that Madara was dead. So it became obviuous that everybody would suspect Uchihas. First because their sharingan can control Kyubii. Second cause they were the clan that always had the desire to archieve the Konoha’s leadership.
I bet my money that into ANBU Root there were many Senjus. Maybe Senjus wanted to archieve power. But under Second’s eyes, it wasn’t good. Afterall… Three Senju Hokages, one after other, wasn’t good to improve every clans bonds. So he indicates Sarutobi as Hokage. Hanzou, that probably is a Senju, hated this decision, and founded ANBU Root.
Just to correct my mistake… It’s not “Hanzou”… It’s “Danzo”.
Also here’s his page in Wikia: http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Danzo
His clan hasn’t been revealed until now.
Look…i would like to state that not EVERY friggin sharingan can control the kyuubi like that japanese dude in the new WTF post…..
Only a mangekyou can do it!
so dont go takin it sooooooo lightly that a 8 year old kid with the 1 tomoe sharingan could pet the kyuubi and not get burnt…..
(i know this post doesnt mean abything but i like to sound all haughty and beggy once in a while ^^)
i meant “braggy” instead of “beggy” in the last post. :p
One more thing… I predict that Kakashi’s mouth was not revealed yet cause it’s a Limit Bloodline. Until this happens, Kishi will not kill him.
@Makumbaum- you seriously believe that Kakashi’s face is a bloodline limit????? O.o
i dunno about a limit bloodline… if it was so important to keep it a secret throughout the manga, then why did it not hide his father’s face when he had that firepit talk. also, in the episode when team 7 was tryin all but nothing to make kakashi show his face, why were their expressions of the owner and daughter in the ramen shop so positive.
now if it was a bloodline limit….what could it be….and why wouldnt he have used it as a desperate last resort before using his ms. hmmmm ~Avid~
the mere thought of Kakashi’s face being a bloodline limit is complete and utter trash(no offence meant)….it’s like satin that pain is modest, the kyuubi is a saint and sasuGAY is straight….SERIOUSLY!!
Naruto should have muffled under his breath, “Not before Tsunade teaches ‘that’ technique to Sakura, so she doesn’t get all old and frumpy like…” and then shouted at Pain, “You killed my Sensei, now you must Die!”
tsnade would have died if not for naruto why was she just standing there
i think kakashi is dead
look at his pic
naruto should have said: eh that wasnt oscar stuff…but what do u think pain, golden globe?
imo,he should have said something along the lines of “pain,im gonna kick your ass so hard u ll be reincarnated with a sore arse”
feel free to alter it into somthn even better^^
btw,whats this im reading about the possibility of kakashis face beeing a kekkei genkai?we all now kakashi to b a “smell” user,much like kiba.iff u recall the 1st shippuuden movie we saw gitai,another smell user who also covered his face.imo,iff kakashi didnt cover his nose,he’d simply be overwhelmed with smells.try it urself,go on a bender and see what happens to your hearing when u have the mother of all headaches^^
If Kakashi were really dead they would not continue to draw him in each chapter of the recent manga issues. They are simply building the suspense for his return in the aftermath section of this arc. He is too important of a character to dismiss at this point in the story. He was also foreshadowed by Jariaya and Tsunade to be the next best option for an eligible Hokage.
onemanga.com/Naruto/425/03/
onemanga.com/Naruto/425/04/
onemanga.com/Naruto/427/06/
onemanga.com/Naruto/430/09/
Additionally why put forth all the effort to begin developing a back story for his father if you are going to kill the character off. I disagree strongly that Kakashi is going to be written out of the manga.
ok the way i see it is senju was a group of clans… one clan doesnt have 1000 techniques, i think it was named that to show the diversity of clans, and they battles uchiha who was just family which led to the alliance and bla bla blaaaa… but is senju ever used as a name for the first or second hokage?
Wait a minute there, hold up, Renzy. One clan doesn’t have 1,000 techniques? Impossible you say? Just what do they say about Kakashi to emphasize that he knows a lot of jutsu? What do the they say about the Professor? Huh? Now how can you say a clan cannot have this 1,000 techniques (which is clearly a figure of speech) when these two individuals have both been described by that phrase in either the manga or anime?
Question on an different subject.
Cartoon Network is about to finish up these horrible filler Naruto episodes. They are at 206 now, leaving 14 more episodes, that will make April 11th 2009 the final Naruto episode (if they do not skip a weekend).
Do you guys think they will do the Naruto to Naruto:Shippuden transition like they did with Dragonball Z and wait 2 years to show Dragonball GT? Or could we possibly see english translated episodes in the US by the end of 2009 or early 2010?
About the debate above between Ibiki and Renzy, I am going to have to side with Ibiki. Kakashi may not actually have 1000+ jutsu, but I’d be willing to bet he knows a few hundred iterations of the various Jutsu I have listed below. He may be like the Bubba Gump of Jutsu thanks to his Sharingan.
Basic and unique genjutsu’s with his sharingan
Earth element jutsu
Water element jutsu
Lightning element jutsu
Fire element jutsu
Wind element jutsu
Shape manipulation jutsu (Rasengan)
Shape + Elemental jutsu (Chidori and lightening blade)
Clone jutsu & Sexy no jutsu too I bet
Time and space jutsu (like he did with Deidara’s arm and explosion)
Summoning Jutsu (his dogs)
Sealing jutsu (like he did with Sasuke’s curse mark)
Substitution Jutsu
I do not know if Taijutsu counts, but he is no slacker there either
And probably a huge amount of useless knowledge he does not find practical in battle. Like the empty bottle of beer substitution jutsu to refill his pint of Guinness.
Take that same level of talent and multiply it by an entire clan of war torn shinobi and it becomes possible for a clan to have 1000 jutsu collectively. Kakashi has this many jutsu in a time of peace, what would war time conditions permit him to copy?
Actually the only elemental jutsu that Kakashi hasn’t casted was Fuuton. He already have used Raikon, Suiton, Doton and Katon. He, along with Sarutobi, were known as those who can use every ninjutsu at Konoha. Obviously, it is exaggerated. But… If Sarutobi knew all basic elemental (and even yin yang and Fouth’s seal technique), his Senju masters could knew too.
I think that Kakashi’s mouth is related with his father’s title – White Fang. Maybe he could lose himself using this technique and hasn’t used (or mastered) it yet. I bet it’s something like Sage Mode – if you can’t properly master it, you turn into a frog… So… That’s what I’m waiting…
Here’a page abou Kakashi’s father (http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Sakumo_Hatake). But definetly… Those informations hadn’t appeared in manga, so read carefully.
Also… Jiraya and Naruto carrying that tome… Harashima Senju carried one too (http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/399/02/).
@Ibiki’s theory could be possible… But I cannot see Naruto making trees… If he turn out to be a senju, Kishi will have the obligation to make he use wood jutsu. But if he’s from a totally different and powerful clan, that had not yet shown… It opens more possibilities. Actually could have existed some small and powerful clans different from Senju and Uchiha – like Kimimaro’s clan.
Here is a shot of him using the scroll on his back in battle against Madara.
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/399/10-11/
And a nice Uchiha family photo. That is a bunch of Sharingans.
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/398/18/
For Jiraiya and the rest of my village I swear that the pain brought on by you won’t even feel like a pinch compared to what I do to you …. B1@τ©h
naruto should have said- I CAN NEVER FORGIVE YOU NOT EVER
Alsooo Minato left a scroll to naruto and he knows flying thunder god jutsu
@ibi kakashi has all those techniques because of sharingan which is an uchiha thing… not senju, and by professor you mean the third right? those scrolls naruto stole in like the first couple chapters i believe have all the seperate clans jutsus in them, and they are entrusted to the hokage… this of course is also after they all join too haha
what im saying is that each clan specializes in their own techniques like shikamaru with his shadow shit and chouji with his rediculous growth jutsus… i think they called it all senju because they brought all of the seperate techniques together… obviousely just speclation
@Renzy: and where do you think that scroll collection came from? Senju clan kicked everyone’s a$$ and scrolled up the jutsus. Your argument is still not logical. The point is, if one individual (such as Kakashi or the Third) can be said to be master of 1,000 jutsu, there is nothing to prevent an entire clan from having 1,000.
@ibi sorry i reread and came up with a better theory thats closer to yours… they basically say it in the manga that after uchiha and senju made their alliance they formed a pact with the land of fire which contained konoha… so yea youre right senju was an individual clan like uchiha
Renzy: lol. I don’t have a theory about this, I’m just trying to get you guys to draw logical conclusions.
BTW, you have to check the Contest comments…I think I just died laughing.
oh, and #500!!!!!!!!
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/280/19/
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/398/13/
ok question where are the pins in 398/13?
This is kinda outta the way but remember way back when naruto was talking to itachi and he gave him some kind of power, i think it lets him counter sharingan.
“You say you know true pain… not till I’m threw with you!”
Uzumaki Naruto should have yelled…
You say you know true pain… NOT YET!
naruto is look very powerfool but when manga 431 comes out?
yeah im lateing to see what kinda of power he gived to naruto
I have developed a theory on a possible connection between Madara and Dazou. What if Madara lied about his brother dying and in reality Dazou is Madara’s Brother. It would explain why they resemble each other. My thoughts are that Madara may have only taken one of his brothers eyes (since that’s all they show in the flashback), which would explain why Madara only uses one sharingan, and Danzou has a bandage over one eye.
My theory has holes, but in my humble opinion still isn’t as crazy as some of the theories out there. What do you think?
Ok i found naruto 430 AT lot better scanned at http://www.mangafox.com/page/manga/read/8/naruto/chapter.72996/page.1
and the last page says http://www.mangafox.com/page/manga/read/8/naruto/chapter.72996/page.18/ ONCE and for all. Not lets finish this. One manga translations sucks.
a little to spice up the naruto – senju connection-
Anyone remember 106’s little bro nawaki and his resemblance to naruto!…guess it is based on the hair theiry but neverthless..
@ibi – not judjin or nefin but i think lastscorpion pwned everyone in the fanfic contest ^^
naruto should have said : This saves me a lot of trouble finding you .
after much thought I have decided what naruto should have said. Yippee ki yay mother fucker.
@iamnotreallyhere: Good theory. It could be possible!
@harshytkag: It could be possible. But remember that there are some manga where chars resemble, but doesn’t have any type of connection. Like when someone just looks like the girl’s father or something like this. Does anybody here ever readed Kurohime? It’s an example!!! But again… It’s pretty possible. And maybe Kishi is trying to tell us this using the scroll…
(But again… Even though it could be cool… I just can’t see Naruto casting wood jutsu. And the if that’s the point… What’s the crest meaning? I thought the crest had sometype of connection with his mother. But Fourth was using it: http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/382/09/ So there’s a high probability that it’s related with his clan! But… By one way or the other, both will be cool!!! Kishi beats every mangaka!)
Naruto should have yelled out “NEXT!” or my favorite, “You’re a real pain in the ass!
Naruto says: ,,Your days as God are over!!!”
@ iamnotrelehere: u see madara aty one point with both his eyes with the mangekyo sharingan and u also see both his brothers eyes bleeding where theyve been taken
@iamnotrelehere: in one chapter we see madara with both his eyes having the mangekyo and we see his brother with both eyelids closed and bleeding. and its always reffered to as plural “eyes” nt eye. also u do see his brother dead in a coffin. thts the 1 way to show someone is actually dead in a manga.
I’m offshore til the 14th, and these people are stingy with the internet. But, I covertly got online and got the latest issue, and stopped here to say, “hi”.
Naruto should have said, “you got to ask yourself one thing, ‘Am I feeling luck?’ Well, are you, PUNK!” – ala Dirty Harry
yeah that crest probly is the symbol of naruto’s clan because his father had it and not only that looking at sasuke’s father he also had his crest on his shoulder.
btw i cant see naruto traveling around in his sage mode clothes all the time with that scroll it doesn’t fit him well considering he is reckless and not careful at all with himself or his belongings
Naruto should have said:” Stop…! Hammer Time!”
@EroSennin: missed you…covert internet is better than none at all. >.<
@fuutonsavior and others wondering about the symbol on Naruto’s left shoulder. Someone know where there’s a good shot of this?
From what I remember it’s just a swirl symbol like on the back of every chuunin jacket–a symbol of Konoha (yeah, instead of CLAN marks…lol). Naruto probably doesn’t have a known clan symbol, so he wears the village swirl the same way Nara used to wear the circle with the slash through it, and Sasuke still wears the Uchiha winnowing fan. Now about the funny little slingshot looking ropes on either side…who knows.
lol oohhhh didnt know that they all had swirl on there jacket
I was thinking about how the younger ninja are now starting to surpass the older ninja in their techniques. Shikamaru, Sasuke and Naruto are growing by leaps and bounds. How do you think this growth will appear for Sakura? I would think her medical ninja skills would surpass Tsunade just as Naruto has surpassed both Kakashi and Jiraya. Thoughts anyone?
if u look on google for minato and kushina u see kushina wearing the swirl. its the symbol of the former whirlpool country.
“I’m returning your pain 10 fold!” or of course, “I’m going Swayze on your ass!”
ok i looked at naruto’s swirl and it is different from the one on the jackets, but he doesn’t know who his mother or father is. maybe he just likes those kinds of jackets with that swirly thingy on it
If it is the former whirlpool country symbol, why do all the chuunin wear it?
its jus the toggle things tht makes it a former whirlppol thing. a combination of minato and kushinas heritage.
ok that makes sense, I have occasionally wondered about that
acutally i think the thing on his shoulder is completely whirlppol bcos its a grey swirl and the konoha ones are red but my original theory may be right too =/
ive been thinking that is would have made more of a statement on how fast naruto was if in picture were the anbu was reaching for the 8itch’s tit’s that he would have said something like ‘not going to make it’
does anybody know what the whirlpool country is a part of now? like what village?
i think it might have been destroyed
So ibi, your saying it’s more likely to have 1,000 daughters who don’t pass on the name (even though we’ve seen it happen in the manga) than a bunch of clans combining under the title banner of Senju (which i don’t disagree was the clan name of the first)? ever heard of the European Union, NATO, the UN; countries do it all the time… though a country prides itself in its name and heritage, it will join a coalition or alliance, which is led often by a stronger nation(s), which i don’t doubt the senju were a strong clan with the three siblings leading them (forerunners to the sannin?), which was composed of the first, second, and their sister. But it’s more likely that Naruto and the fourth are not from the senju CLAN but they are likely from one of the many smaller and weaker clans that joined the senju GROUP before Konoha’s founding… the name Senju was in all likelyhood dropped once Konoha and the land of FIre were created when the senju GROUP (the original senju CLAN, along with all the other smaller clans) joined the Uchiha clan…
that’s the last you’ll hear from me on this subject until kishi writes something explaining in more detail (if he ever does)
I started to look through the original chapters of Naruto and saw an image that struck a cord with me. This shows how consistent the writers direction has stayed for our members of team 7. Even in the beginning he planned for our 3 members of team 7 to replace the 3 sanin. See image below.
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/4/01/
Look on Naryto’s back in this slide
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/15/02-03/
i read somewere dont kno if its true or not but this is what i read
when the fourth was young he was the last of his clan and all of the clan members have blonde hair blue eyes and are in a sense geunies, and he was brought up with the uchiha clan (for some reason) and i was able to keep up with then dispight them have in the sharingan, until he was a bit older when he just surpassed everyone basically.
dont know if it is true or not.
@Grimmjowfan & Anonymous-Do you always believe everything you see in a Manga? My theory revolves around the possibility that since these images were in a flashback Madara himself was narrating, that they could in fact be lies, at least in part. I will concede that my theory is wrong only when I see both of Madara’s eyes in the present,or in a flashback recalled by someone who has no potential reason to lie about it.
I believe that almost everything Madara told Sasuke, and even Itachi, was little more than lies. I also believe that Madara allowed the Uchiha clan to be wiped out do to possible interbreeding with the Senju and that the thing that may turn Sasuke back from the dark path may be the revelation that his mother was a Senju. Keep in mind that this is all simply my opinions and theories on the matter. Still I would like to know what you think.
i think naruto should of said. “time to finish what jiraiya started!”
yea i think madara was lieing to
and i also think sasuke will go blind
Dude these are seriously HILARIOUS!!!!
i think he should have said: “BITCH PLEASE! Do you WANT me to summon Chuck Norris?”
and of course you can’t forget the lasers
“Imma chargin’ mah lazer!!!!!!!!”
or just “SHOOP DA WHOOP”
@Alec: For something like European Union, NATO and many other… For this kind of representation, they formed the Fire Country – a place (or a flag) that represents a bunch of clans and citizens. That’s what I think… I could be wrong too…
About the crest… They really look the same. Also they look like Naruto’s seal. Take a look at this page: http://www.leafninja.com/seals.php
But taking a carefull look… They have some diferences. Look at this picture of Naruto’s shoulder: http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/317/08/
The lines are not conected like those from Konoha’s simbol. But it could only be some kind of simplification.
And the “Whirlpool” name make me think of some connection with Hidden Mist.
@iamnotreallyhere: I too believe that Madara is telling some lies. Not that everything he said are lies… But maybe he’s hiding important details…
fine nobody cares what i have to say, well you guys can go all take a bucket ****** and **** daniel radcliffe with it!!!!
naw i’m jsut jarring with y’all, i can be a stubborn jackass at times and this is what i’m sticking with, so until it’s written in the manga, this is what i believe…
@smurfclassic, you undoubtedly have read a fanfic, though i would believe they had their own clan considering the fourth and naruto are the only ones with blonde hair blue eyes in the entire series, but being raised by the uchiha is questionable considering eventually he was taught by Jiraya, though it does make some sense considering he seemed to know a lot about the nine tails and why it would appear though it hadn’t been seen since the first and madara fought…
Madara obviously twisted some truths and added his story into it. Some events in the story might be truth like itachi is protecting his bro, but all of evil remarks towards senju that the senjus are takin advantage of uchihas like uchihas had become dogs of senju is utterly shit to me. “Madara could be the one responsible of the uchiha massacre.” (he said himself, he seeks revenge toward those uchihas that betrayed him) So his reason is more convincing than the uchihas are planning to coupdetat. theres no reason for uchiha to do a coupdetat if youre living in peace in konoha. we can see that on some scenes of uchiha that theyre not living in hell so theres no reason for a revolution to merge.
I also still dont believe Tobi is madara. Idk if the first hokage is damn stupid that he would let Madara live if he knows madara is the one stirring up the civil war in konoha between senju and uchiha. The Tobi we know could be Madara’s twin bro, and disguising and takin his well-known bro name as his. Either way, he somehow got hands of Madara’s dead body in the valley of the death and took his bro power even the nine tail fox, and later he used that gained power to unleash the nine tail fox to bring destruction to konoha but failed when the 4th interferred with his plan and seal the 9th tail fox into his son naruto. For all that years had passed, he stayed in the dark plotting his next move. Then he continue his vengeance to the clan that betrayed his bro. and the rest is history after
And one more thing regards this chapter, Im pretty damn sure Madara let Pain do the suicide mission (to capture naruto) to see Naruto if he have control/tame the 9th tail fox sealed in within him and if he did tame, theres no use for madara to capture naruto and unseal/break/suck out the 9th tail fox from him because naruto and the 9th tail fox had already compromise to each other that he will grant his freedom, but becoming his ally whenever naruto needs him he would lend his power to him. (you can use your imagination that naruto isnt stupid to completely trust the fox, and take further security and give him a another seal like the neji seal that forbids the fox to disobey naruto). you can say naruto will be like madara with the nine tail fox in his side but not like madara that take full advantage of the fox.
hmmm small essay i did here. hehehee
dude the thought of tobi not being madara is… well i dont know wat it is…. he is madara, his bro is dead, he killed him no other way to get manyeko sharingan. first hokage probly had more important things to do then chase a rogue ninja around. Probly had to found his newly formed village. then he could deal with some one he knew he could defeat/madara.
Naruto’s shoulder swirl looks like it really is his family crest.
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/7/01/
@kapatidmo: Man… You’ve got a good theory here… I don’t think it’ll happens… But just to help you… Have you ever thought that Danzo could be Madara’s little brother? He could have gotten one of Madara’s eye whe he died. So his Sharingan became always active and he needs to cover this. Even though I don’t think it’s true, it’s only to help you.
My opinio is that Madara massacred Senjus during Kyubii event. So every clan on the village started to susect Uchihas. Again, Madara fill Itachi’s head with bull shits and conviced him to kill Uchihas. Also I think Danzo is a Senju that hated everybody cause Senjus had the idea of found a village, and stay at the top forever. But Second Hokage indicated Sarutobi as his sucessor.
But this place is to for everybody expose the ideas. And if Danzo is Madara, maybe it could help you @kapatidmo. It’s quite possible. Danzo always cover his right eye. And Madara always cover his left eye. Even though I don’t wanna see this… It’s quite possible!
About the theory of control Naruto… I don’t think so. Maybe Sharingan can control more Bijus, and that’s why Madara offered a Biju to Sasuke. And if that’s true, there’s no need to stay with a stubborn Jinchuurik like Naruto. Also… I think that Pain could be killed now, but not Nagato. There’re tons of pictures showing him as the one who control the Biju’s extraction process. Nagato seems to be an impressive character. Even when Itachi fought Kakashi, it sounded that was Nagato that had teach (or used) the jutsu to Itachi and Kisame. Look at their conversation:
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/260/17/
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/260/18/
Itachi: “Even though it’s a convenient jutsu [...]”
Pein: “Humm. The justu has been released.”
Sasori: “For the sacrifice for your jutsu [...]”
Or maybe it was the traslation… Nagato will be a key and trully powerful character.
Oh! Here’s Madara offering a Tailed Beast to Sasuke:
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/404/14/
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/404/15/
Those page are crucial to explain Bijus. Maybe they were formed by somekind of Hashirama’s techinique. And because of them, not cause wood jutsu, First Hokage became famous. To think that Madara could fight equaly with a man that used to have several Tailed Beasts… Maybe to counter this tailed beast, Uchihas created Kyubii – the strongest of them all.
I don’t know if it’s been brought up yet but I found it weird that Naruto said
“I feel the same presence as when I fought by Jiraiya’s side”
or am I overlooking something??
sorry i didn’t want to go back and read the last couple hundred posts to see if this was brought up already.
well im just logging in real quick i didnt get a chance to read everything but what stood out the most was the discussion between ibi about senju and so forth.. this is what i think.. that senju is its own seperate clan.. unlike the uchihas that were specialist in fire jutsu and all that the senju had many gifted ninjas who were good at many jutsus not just on particular one. When konoha was established the senju remained among the uchihas and hyuugas and shino’s clan (forget the name) … so i think that senju is not a general clan name for all these clans to be addressed by. maybe the storyline hasnt gone long enough for us to really know what happened to the clan.
I really think this will eventually be covered later in the story line when they reveal to Naruto about his history and i think it will be till then that they will cover further history to konoha, its ancestry and also naruto’s family history.. i can still predict that this will be held back many chapters to come due to the whole invasion of konoha, madara , and also with a further Sasugay retrieval… So unfortunately guys its still a long way in my opinion until they cover any further information about the senju clan and the 4th…
In a whole other note…. I dont know if it was covered.. but i believe naruto’s mother is from the whirlpool country and that might just be the crest he is wearing… not to sure on it but i read it somewhere oh here manga chapter 382,and on naruto wiki http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Kushina_Uzumaki well hopefully we’ll see some good stuff in the next naruto chapters… (Im hoping for it!)
by the way just wanted to put up these facts i found on narutopedia.com “The Senju clan (千手一族, Senju Ichizoku) was considered the strongest clan in the world during the war-torn era before the founding of the hidden villages.” so Senju was an established clan before the founding of the villages therefore they weren’t any other clans within them.
http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Senju_clan
“The Senju clan gained their fame in the era before the founding of the hidden villages. Where other clans focused on mastering one particular skill, the Senju had masters in all skills, from Ninjutsu, to Taijutsu, to Genjutsu.”
So Hopefully this helps a bit to that discussion about the clans..
Naruto should say, “I gonna shove his head up his ass, his head up his ass, his head up his ass…”ala Hancock.
when i saw the manga with sasuke knocking the glass over i though he was going bind a bit fast for only ms a few time.
i read a while back about jiraya being related to the second but i think that the only ones related to each other is the 5th and the 1st and 4th and naruto.
what if madara is really Obito….eh eh?…that would explain the one eye…kakashi has the other one…tell me what you think…yes no?
what if madara is really Obito…what if Obito didn’t die…the manga dosen’t say what happens to his body…dosen’t kakashi leave him to go save rin… eh eh?…that would explain the one eye…kakashi has the other one…and that would leave room for another uchiha besides sauske and itachi that is not madara or his brother…tell me what you think…yes no?
sorry for the spamming my computer was fucking up and i didn’t know it was posting every time
fuck…i ment tobi…what if obito is really tobi not madara…sorry
i think naruto should have said: your pain shall be legendary, believe it bitch!
Naruto should’ve said:”Your fight’s with me.”
about the swirl crest/drawing or whatever is that..its the swirl you can see on most jounin vest printed at the back. lmao. and about the swirl on naruto jacket, its just mini version patch of that swirl. you can also see the same swirl at the wall behind him.
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/7/01/
not a crest of his family obviously. if it were, he has alot family even the enemies ninja that wears that jounin vest.
regards about my post ill follow up some of new idea into it.
Wat if, Tobi & Madara are two different guys!
Been away lately and wille be away for some more time as I just got my wisdom tooth pulled out. Hopefully the managa and anime is released quickly so I watch it and forget about the pain!
naruto should have said “does this cape make my ass look big” lol or “i like what uv done with the place, not sure on all the death and destruction though”
Naruto should have said… ” It’s Hammer Time. “
pain will conquer the world with the dizzleee eyes hahahahaaha
konaha will fall in his hands en the paperladie wil make poster over the world that lazy techniq
where is the other chapter waaaaaa
“So you’ve found me, lets see if you like what you’ve found” my bs quote.
Anyways just felt like throwing my opinions around since you all are
Senju was an established clan that was the only true rival to the powers of Uchiha. If one side of a war hired the Uchiha the other would hire the Senju to counter and they were the only 2 apex clans, or so it seems.
The whole Senju forming after the combination of clans into a city is kinda BS imo, Senju was around for a long time, a widely known clan and to argue the UN coalition etc argument, yeah those exist, Senju+Uchiha+Abrami+god knows how many became the Konoha Alliance or village/nation blah blah blah
The scroll on the 1st’s back that he always carried in my opinion would be where he contained his sealing jutsu and barrier jutsu. The manga states that the 1st had either acquired most if not all of the chakra beast and as nations began to form he gave them out as a sign of trust, most likely sealed within the scrolls he carried and kept as the hokage.
The scroll Jiraiya carried as well as Naruto and the 4th, is that of the Gama pact. I believe it was in a filler anime but thats when he pulled it off his back and had Naruto sign with Gama to summon the frogs, the 4th wore it when he faced off against the 9 tails atop Gama’s head and so on.
The scroll Jiraiya left behind, that contains Naruto’s seal technique is seen next to Fukasaku here, http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/405/02/, in the second panel, now whether or not it was given to Naruto I cannot say though it did travel back to Konoha with Fuka.
The 4th’s “Flash Dance” technique I’m sure is still sealed within the Hokage libraries, where Naruto found the scroll with the Shadow Clones and etc. I don’t see him mysteriously learning his father’s trade secrets while training in purely sage arts and such, though he may learn of them later once pain has been defeated and Tsunade sees that Naruto has matured enough to harness the powers left behind. Though we don’t really know the specifics of the “Clan secret tecniques” and how they are guarded or for what reason they are kept secret from the town’s ninja. Seems to hinder their strength in my opinion since they have all of these godly skills in scrolls they do not allow anyone to read, unless Anbu are provided the right, which doesn’t seem to be so…
Minato’s name means “Waves and Wind” so to expand on that and bs a little, Naruto has mastered the Wind element, for him to over come Sasuke he must find a way to use Water, seems like father’s name fits perfectly for that, as well as his mother being from the Whirlpool country. Though it’s never discussed where Minato comes from, for all we know his name could be a branch from a former Whirlpool country clan that was wiped out.
The power or powers given to Naruto by Itachi could be any number of things, Naruto himself will have to learn to control the 9 tails, and in a way has quite well, if we exclude the whole fusion botch, but other then that the 9 tails has not awoken in some great time, excluding anime fillers which in most cases don’t count. Anyways my thought is that it was a defensive skill set, maybe to extinguish the black flames, neutralize the Sharingan or unlock an inner power Naruto’s bloodline possesses that Itachi may have learned about while in Anbu.
Sasuke himself, we’ll he’s weak as all hell, he’s just damn lucky. From the very beginning Sasuke had no real talent, he lacked skill and discipline in everything. The only way he gained power was form his brother imparting it every time he begged to be thought, how you ask? well look at what Itachi does to his forehead every time he flashes back. Do you think Sauske finally figured out what his brother was doing when Madara points out the obvious? I doubt it but anyways he only managed to barely defeat the body Orochimaru was in while he was beyond weak. He barely beat Diedara, mainly because he was careless. and he failed horribly with the 8tails, nearly dying 3 times all I have to say is he needs to go blind or die or kill himself and get rid of those crap fillers about emo flashbacks.
Naruto has gained a ton of strength confidence and all around combat skill and perception. He seems more keen, more observant and just all around bad-ass. The problem though is we’re seeing him draped over extremely weakened opponents and allies. Tsunade has little chakra left, she’s beyond weak the Anbu all seem to be weaklings and the lazer head Pain body was just reincarnated using a ton of chakra, further weakening the 6 pain bodies. Who’s to tell if he’s really that great? At least I can say he’s damn fast, quick on the draw with his rasengan, FINALLY, and tbh that shot to pain’s back looks like more then a normal rasengan, seeing as how it has a trailing explosion not unlike the futon wind infused did.
I think that is a good enough bs session for now, maybe someone will read it lol.
Naruto manga 431 Spoiler [Confirmed]
Naruto:Lets do this.
Pain:Very well then,Jinchuuriki.
Summoner Pain steps for an array of summons.(Those crazy dogs,a beetle, a bird, a dragon , and a panda)
All the frog prepares for battle.
Tsunade and Anbu are shocked.
Naruto:Gamaken, Gamabunta and Gamakichi NOW!!!
All Three toads shoots oil on the Summons except the Bird.
Gamaken:I missed one, My aim is bad.
Gamabunta:Shut up Gamaken four is good enough.
Naruto: Sage Arts! Katon:Wildfire no Jutsu !
A Powerful eropution of flames spew forth from Naruto’s mouth burning the summons to crisp.
Leaving a thick smoke behind.
Pa toad asunder the bird with a wind technique.
The bird explodes into white smoke.
Naruto spots the summoner within the smoke, then he takes off
with a lightning speed (Most likely Sunshin no Jutsu)and vanishes in the smoke.
The summoner’s body is seen flying out the smoke spiraling into the ground with a thud that leave’s a billow of dust behind.
That leaves God realm, Hungry ghost, HellRealm , and Human realm Left.
God Pain: You’re tougher than i tought.
Naruto:*Thinking* This guy is like my Kage Bunshin Jutsu.
All replicas, but not real.
*Somthing strucks into Naruto’s head* Naruto:I know !!
Naruto smirks with a kage Bunshin handseal.
Every wounded citizen of Konoha looks Towards Naruto as a
~~Light of hope~~
Chapter Ends.
I don’t think that Madara could be Obito cause of the age. Itachi searched for Madara… And Kakashi, Obito and Itachi have almost the same age. If Madara is Obito, Itachi could have revealed to Sasuke. Also… If Obito is alive, why did he wanted to destroy Uchihas? He didn’t had any grudge against Uchihas…
the naruto world works in strange ways……..
i like what naruto says on the improved second version that was put up and onemanga. does anyone know if i write in asuming thee the destoyed part if the village was were the hokages office buliding was? if so isnt the ramen shop near that office buliding? if i correct in assuming these things if so i sure hope naruto dosent find out because his head will explode lol
@Dave: I read your statements. Good points you have!!! Even though the natural way to proceed is watch Naruto using wind and water… I just cannot imagine him using water… Cause it’s too defensive! I hope it doesn’t happens!!!
I disagree with you only at one point. Frog’s scroll is different from the one Jiraya carried. Look: http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/92/18/
I totally agree with you about Sasuke’s thing. Sasuke is damn weak. He’s only a cheap talking!!!
Well here’s a Kishi message: http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/98/01/
Kishi has the same pattern as Naruto! ahahahaha
For those who like to read more about Biju’s: http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?t=57918
Note that Kyuubi is related with Yamata no Orochi – that saneke that cames out of Sasuke.
Also… Again, Naruto’s simbol is a little different from Konoha: http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/97/10/
@makubaum: i thinkl ur right about naruto not learning water although i do think it could be an awesome offensive style too. jus look at the 2nd hokage. ppl seem to immediately say no to naruto using fire buh i think thts the most obvious one bcos its one of the leafs most common jutsus (no surprise) buh also bcos its practiacally a necessity to use with sage arts. jus look at most of jiraiyas techniques. and even if ppl disagree he could learn 3 elemental jutsus. look at kakashi. his main element is lightning buh hes awesome with water and knows that ground attack we love.
i dont think its impossible for a wind natured ninja to learn the one fire jutsu. and besides if we look back a bit when naruto was first learning wind we see kakashi saying that being tht type of chakra natured simply increases the power of those kinds of jutsus drastically. and knowing naruto hes deffo capable of learning 3 diff types of element jutsus. nothings impossible for naruto.
@grimmjow, the series just doesn’t lend to him learning fire on his own, yet… its understandable if he begins to use the fox for fire elemental attacks, but he’ll learn water before that. Look at it, Saskue is basically his counterpart, they are a yin and yang of their own (don’t worry ibi, this is a westernized description)… Saskue knows fire, which is strong against wind, but wind is strong against lightning, which is strong against water (okay, i’m going with pokemon on this one), which is strong against fire… balnce my friend
This is off topic, but I wonder what plans the Third Hokage thought would be done where he could step down 5 years from now. Maybe he was thinking Naruto would be of age? Or maybe something else entirely different.
I’ve began wondering if the Third was really as good as he was cracked up to be.
The quote about stepping down in 5 years is from when he said that to the Kazekage a.k.a. Orochimaru before the final Chuninn exams started. Here’s the link below.
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/99/07/
but if he has water element wouldnt he be able to use ice and that is a kenkia genkia
sry for mispelling
@jjj: he cant do kekke genkai bcos he doesnt have the bloodline like haku and im sure he could learn the fireball technique frm the frogs. u gotta c how he has to have the fireball jutsu to work with gamabunta nd the others. main part of sage arts. and i dont c it being completely necessary tht he nd sasuke are mirrors of each other. and like i sed erlier he cud learn fire and water. and lightnings strong against earth nt water.
tht was aimed at alec aswell
@Alec: that was right on the money, and not westernized. =)
Although I think Naruto and Sasuke are both going to have fire. Because toad oil with fire is just too awesome a jutsu to let die with Pervy sage. Plus, Sas-Uke can’t have control over more elements than Naruto. He just can’t. But between the two of them they will have all 5 because, yeah, balance.
exactly :]
@ ibi- well its been shown that he doesn’t need to use fire for toad oil explosion thing… In the anime gambunta used toad oil and naruto lit it on fire with an explosive note, while in sage mode it was jiraya who brought out the toad oil, shima brought the wind, and fukakasu used fire… and thanx, i actually got something right on your book, that makes my day ^_^
@grimjow- I’m not saying he’s going to use ice, just because you have water and wind doesn’t mean you have ice abilities, just like kakashi uses both water and earth, but that doesn’t mean he can make wood element… plus everything in the series just happens to hint at him learning water next, though that probably won’t happen for a little bit. Plus Naruto learning fire is a little redundant with him just becoming the next jiraya, so far its been hinted that his style is more like his mothers and so far all he’s learned is rasengan and toad jutsus (i’m talking about stuff more powerful than shadow clones), wich are more like his dad, plus it looks like his dad, so naturally he needs some of his moms abilitites, wich is water cause she’s from the former whirlpool village
lol, Alec, you get lots of stuff right, I just like picking on you because you’ll play devil’s advocate with me. ^.^ Plus I know you’re not gonna blubber like a little girl if I practice some trash talk.
I still say fire justsu tho…that explosive tag seems like a weenie way to light a gout of toad oil. It works. But it works like a two-handed, tiny-balled, double-clone rasengan. ^.^
i am naruto`s fun but sasugay is strong. dont u remember when they started training with kakashi he was the best. and all the jutsu`s are nothing to his sharingan ok. he did beat diedra easily but he didnt want to kill him cause he wanted to know from him where itachi was. didnt u see when naruto met itachi in the first min naruto was already in gangetsu, he couldnt do anything. unless if itachi has give naruto something that works against sharingan, then yeah naruto can beat him otherwise no.
I am going to have to side with Alec also, but for slightly different reasons. If I had to think of Naruto and Sasuke as black and white opposing forces. The natural antithesis to Sasuke’s fire jutsu would be for Naruto to control water jutsu.
This make a nice balance.
Wind overpowers lightning, but is weak to fire
Water overpowers fire, but is weak to lightning.
If they fight as a combined team, they can strengthen each other. If they fight against one another Naruto can negate Sasuke’s elemental jutsu with his own (Water vs Fire, Wind vs Lightning).
Sasuke = Fire and Lightning
Naruto = Wind and Water
Also what two forces make up a Maelstrom/Hurricane/Typhoon (Wind and Water)
i think u guys are understimating sharigan. sharingan ganjetsu is too strong aswell and it can do many more damages not only black fire.
I strongly believe that the power itachi gave to naruto is the capability for controling Kyubi… the sharingan is known to have the power to do it… so I believe he made something to make sasuke’s power against kyubi and madara useless… something like, maybe if naruto get’s captured they won’t be able to extract kyubi from him… I dunno just thinking
Yes, orion, exactly. But i’m saying they have to complete the circle. Naruto learns water, so Sasuke learns earth to complete the 5 elements. But then Naruto needs 3rd or Sas-Uke knows more than him…unless Naruto also learns a third. Jeez, he’s got flames on his new coat for cryin out loud…of course it’s fire.
yeah i agree wit the water theory. i kind of said it a while ago but yeah it balances the scale, and create an awesome battle in the end.
or yano maybe sakura learns earth d-:
ooooo….renzy i like that. We do have to see another sannin three-way replay. Will Sakura inherit the slug?
Earth would be fitting for Sakura’s herculean strength. Question, is that strength gained through medical ninjutsu training or was that gained separately through other methods taught by Tsunade? I never read how Sakura gained that power, she just seemed to pop up with it one day in an exhibition against Kakashi at the training grounds.
@ Ibiki, maybe he just thought flames looked cool on his cloak or that could have been an old cloak given to him by Fukasaku that Jaraiya grew out of. You know we men tend to gain a little weight as we grow older. The cloak could be the equivalent of a pair of jeans you could fit into in High School, but can’t squeeze your butt into anymore now that you have graduated college.
I still think it is water element….. Whirlpool country….. Hurricane chronicles….. Counter to Sasuke’s fire….. And water is defensive, balancing out his offensive wind element…..
@ Renzy – I believe in time they will learn all 5 elements each, like Sarutobi and Kakashi. If they live to their mid 30s or early 40s.
Final thought.
Naruto’s big weakness is ginjutsu. He is such a puss when it comes to defending against it. For the love of God I hope Itachi’s donated power assisted with overcoming that weakness.
@ Ibiki – Does this answer your Sakura/Slug question.
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/4/01/
It’s funny that some of our new questions can be answered by very early chapters. That Chapter 4 shot foretold of Naruto, Sasuke, and Sakura’s future 200+ chapters later.
that’s called: good writing. ^.^
Was there ever a chapter that chronicled how Sakura trained for super strength or how it is attained?
The 8-tails jinchuuriki is still alive, and being that he has full control in his 8-tails form, I think kirabi will be the one to help naruto control his beast. It only makes sense since kirabi is the only one who knows how to control it. Anyone agree or disagree?
orion: that was covered in the Shippuuden anime and there were quite a few flashbacks of Tsunade teaching her not to flinch and that kind of thing.
Just throwing it out there but i do believe gai will die saving lee and a point in time releasing all 8 gates ive been grounded all i got is the computer but its not so bad well yea it is but still been watching naruto and stuff it just came to my head
I found the first demonstration of her strength, but still did not find a training session.
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/246/10-11/
sakura has always had super strength… she could just only use it when she got mad
@ Akatsukirules – Sounds very reasonable? These past two years have marked turning points in the young ninja of the leaf village growing into powerful shinobi. A few have lost paternal or brotherly figures. I think the strongest father/son type bond between the team captains and students is the Gai/Lee relationship. Everyone knows Gai thinks of Lee as his own son and Lee seeks his approval like a son does to a father he admires.
I can easily see Lee loosing Gai in a Atatsuki battle in later chapters, but I think we are some time away from that. Lee is under Gai’s wing too much and lacks his own individuality because of it. The death of Gai may render some original talent Lee generates with his own skills. I can not think of any major talents Gai has not passed down to Lee, so Gai is nearing the end of his usefulness as a captain to this particular generation of shinobi.
@ akrules – nooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!! Maito Gai can never die, especially when Lee has already grown up! don’t utter that blasphemy!! jk, well if he got rid of guy, there wouldn’t be much to laugh at anymore now that pervy sage is gone form the manga and almost gone in the anime…
@everybody – continuing saksue debates: Saskue is more of a finess player who specializes in multiple techniques, but his biggest power attack (besides kirin wich only appears under very special circumstances) is his amaretsu, and the dragon fire balls… lightining and fire more suit his style of excelling at facing one opponent at a time (just like itachi) with his attacks, where as Naruto’s style is completely different, he can go against multiple opponenets at the same time with his summonings, and his clones. Saskue can face manyopponents but he still attacks each one with a different attack, where as naruto can use one big move to take down many. Saskue uses finess and skill to defeat them, and Naruto completely overwhelms them with pure power… more balance i guess. And genjutsu is only effective as long as the person can’t interupt there flow with somehting, where as Naruto could use the fox as a partner or shima/fukakasu thus ending the jutsu no matter how powerful… Saskue used Tsukyomi and it was still ineffective against the eight tails, and that is the most powerful genjutsu technique there is thus far… again just more balnce, in fact i would have to say if Naruto gains control of the fox just a little bit he’ll be even with saskue
Well… For a near future I think that Naruto will learn Fire Element. Cause a Nine Tail Fox uses fire. And using fire will show that he started to control more the fox. Also it will creates a competition between Sasuke and Naruto about who uses better Fire Techniques.
I think that Sasuke will use every five elements. But Naruto not. And it will not make any difference in the end: Naruto will beat Sasuke the same way. Naruto will be the master on weird jutsus and on creative ways of using them. Not necessary, he needs to walk the same path as Sasuke to archieve power. That’s why I wanna see him using toad’s stomach summon. It’s better than any defensive water jutsu!!!
But that aside… Let’s see in the next chapter if Madara will show his face. If he doesn’t show, maybe there’s a high probability that he is Danzo. Both of them cannot show themselves at the same time. I don’t belive that they are the same. But it’s quite possible.